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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 09:26:34 pm

Title: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 09:26:34 pm

My friend Nic and I drove two hours north to this Osage grove he knows. We did all the cutting by hand and man am I beat. We got some really good staves though. Longest pieces are about 65"

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/1FD5157A-66A7-453E-83F9-DDB6194F6167_zpsbkxmd2w6.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/1FD5157A-66A7-453E-83F9-DDB6194F6167_zpsbkxmd2w6.jpg.html)

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There was a black berry bush wrapped all around this second tree that we had to clear out.

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Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 09:29:30 pm

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/72EF1C2E-90BC-4343-9527-FFA81AF5B196_zps0m2nhwzp.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/72EF1C2E-90BC-4343-9527-FFA81AF5B196_zps0m2nhwzp.jpg.html)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/C52C9285-5E3C-40CD-B232-5E3A8FAA92AB_zpsxoy0bxzo.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/C52C9285-5E3C-40CD-B232-5E3A8FAA92AB_zpsxoy0bxzo.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: nclonghunter on February 15, 2014, 09:47:49 pm

Nice haul, lots of fun right there... :'(

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 09:52:51 pm

Yeah I had a blast.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Pat B on February 15, 2014, 10:08:20 pm

That's what you call earning your wood.    8)   Nice haul guys.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Trapper Rob on February 15, 2014, 10:11:46 pm

Nice haul Jordan.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 11:14:04 pm

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/BDC562A5-C979-4CCE-A238-E9B0D35836A8_zpsorsym8x5.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/BDC562A5-C979-4CCE-A238-E9B0D35836A8_zpsorsym8x5.jpg.html)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/09F91487-A2D0-45D9-B7D3-72A4B51E2D28_zpslqs9hoqv.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/09F91487-A2D0-45D9-B7D3-72A4B51E2D28_zpslqs9hoqv.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: osage outlaw on February 15, 2014, 11:42:43 pm

That looks like some good times right there.  Nice haul.  Make sure you seal the ends.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 15, 2014, 11:53:49 pm

Yup tb2 is drying now. Any other tips on drying/seasoning? Should I split the wider ones one more time?

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: osage outlaw on February 16, 2014, 12:11:37 am

I can't really tell how big they are.  If you split them to small they might start warping on you.  Make sure to seal the backs if you remove the bark and sapwood.  That looks like young bark.  I bet the rings are pretty thick.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 12:20:00 am

Yeah rings are real thick on a few of them.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: bubby on February 16, 2014, 02:21:03 am

Nice haul jordo, by

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: paulsemp on February 16, 2014, 02:30:24 am

Bring home some osage is always a good feeling  8). Don't forget some of them small limbs. I've made some sweet bows from 2" limbs. Cutting osage is also more fun with a chainsaw :). You sure earned it doing it with a ax

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: tipi stuff on February 16, 2014, 08:49:32 am

Nice load of wood! Next time you go, cut you a couple of those overhanging limbs too. They already have some nice back set to them, but the ones I've made like that were a challenge to tiller.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: 4dog on February 16, 2014, 08:58:29 am

way to go Bucky!!!  now quit yer whining about not havin no yella wood!!  >:D

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 16, 2014, 09:03:06 am

Finally Jordo! Now I can stop feeling sorry for your butt. Since that's all you have? Id suggest peeling and sealing the whole batch. If you don't, almost half with develop laminar cracks and the ends will check deeper. Peel and seal now and your chances of using every stick of it are good. I ruined 25% of my stash by not peeling and sealing.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: TRACY on February 16, 2014, 09:08:43 am

Chainsaw next time unless this was a covert haul ;D  be careful splitting the small stuff too much before it's had a chance to dry, it'll corkscrew on you and make straightening difficult. Nice haul!


Tracy

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: koan on February 16, 2014, 09:49:41 am

Nice haul! Looks like I shoulda sent ya 2 drawknives, lol.. If you split them smaller ones right away put them back to back and flip them 180* from each other and wrap them together with some kinda rope. It seems to help me with the warping 😉... Brian

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: nclonghunter on February 16, 2014, 11:10:59 am

For covert operations a two man, sharp crosscut saw is the way to go. Quieter than chopping and chopping is quieter than a chainsaw. Sawing also gives good flat ends.

Looks like you left some 36 inch pieces that would make nice billets also. Take a yardstick with you to get your cuts.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2014, 12:27:59 pm

I'm with Paul. Cut some of those smaller suckers. They can  make very nice bows.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: paulsemp on February 16, 2014, 02:49:39 pm

Quote from: Pat B on February 16, 2014, 12:27:59 pm

I'm with Paul. Cut some of those smaller suckers. They can  make very nice bows.

Yup. My rule with cutting osage is cut now ask questions later >:D. Those limbs can take serious crown and preform,  or leave sapwood or decrown. Plus limb bows have a cool primitive look to them.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 02:54:57 pm

Pearl, koan is sending me a drawknife Tuesday so I'll be able to make a bench vice in the mean time. 

We had to haul all of this 1/2 mile back to the car without any ropes or anything to help so we only the big stuff two at a time, before splitting. Next time I'm making some type of carrying device.

Quote from: paulsemp on February 16, 2014, 02:49:39 pm

Quote from: Pat B on February 16, 2014, 12:27:59 pm

I'm with Paul. Cut some of those smaller suckers. They can  make very nice bows.

Yup. My rule with cutting osage is cut now ask questions later >:D. Those limbs can take serious crown and preform,  or leave sapwood or decrown. Plus limb bows have a cool primitive look to them.

We both cut one each. It'll probably be the first piece I work with.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: bubby on February 16, 2014, 03:05:48 pm

just a 1/2 mile, come on man your young  >:D

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: paulsemp on February 16, 2014, 03:10:27 pm

At 50 bucks plus per stave it's well worth the walk.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Gus on February 16, 2014, 03:19:08 pm

You might consider cutting some long Straight limbs.
Make yourself a couple Travois to haul out the big stuff.
Then use the Travois poles for bow wood too...

Nice Primitive Haul...

If you wanna go more Primitive next time y'all could use Stone Axes...   >:D

-gus

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 03:26:38 pm

Quote from: bubby on February 16, 2014, 03:05:48 pm

just a 1/2 mile, come on man your young  >:D

Yeah yeah yeah lol back and forth four times after cutting all of it, is hard work.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 03:28:02 pm

Quote from: Gus on February 16, 2014, 03:19:08 pm

You might consider cutting some long Straight limbs.
Make yourself a couple Travois to haul out the big stuff.
Then use the Travois poles for bow wood too...

Nice Primitive Haul...

If you wanna go more Primitive next time y'all could use Stone Axes...   >:D

-gus

HA! I don't think ill be trying that any time soon.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2014, 04:16:25 pm

I like to saw those poles in half, lengthwise and bind them back together with small spacers between the 2 halves so they get good air circulation. I prefer to add controlled reflex later instead of dealing with the reflex the staves will take when cut in half.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 05:57:50 pm

That's a great idea, thanks pat.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: mullet on February 16, 2014, 09:55:40 pm

Y'all did good, but you left a butt load of Billets ;D

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 16, 2014, 10:13:20 pm

Agreed, Now that I look back at it. Our mentality go in was "it if ain't near perfect lets skip it". If I had a chainsaw I would've cut smaller stuff.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: Sidewinder on February 17, 2014, 10:39:18 am

Man, my hats off to ya. Cutting osage with ax and hand saw is a task I don't think I really want to tackle very often. Hope you get some good ones out of that batch.   Danny

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: IdahoMatt on February 17, 2014, 09:44:06 pm

Nice haul man.  I like cutting staves with hand tools.  Unless there is a lot of real big stuff.  How do the rings look.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 17, 2014, 10:08:47 pm

Most of it has some thick rings. I'll post some pics of the ends later.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: IdahoMatt on February 17, 2014, 10:12:28 pm

Sounds great.  I'm happy for ya.  Can't wait to see some pics

Title: Re: My first Osage collection
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 12:07:08 am

Thanks Matt here's some pics.

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Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: Trapper Rob on February 18, 2014, 07:48:37 am

Nice Jordan you better go cut some more.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 10:04:58 am

Good looking mulberry Jordo....

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 10:44:07 am

Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 10:04:58 am

Good looking mulberry Jordo....

I think you need some glasses grandpa Chris lol.

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: paulsemp on February 18, 2014, 10:50:09 am

Never seen rings like that. Illinois osage max 1/8

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 10:52:08 am

Quote from: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 10:44:07 am

Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 10:04:58 am

Good looking mulberry Jordo....

I think you need some glasses grandpa Chris lol.

So much for your surprise gift, you ruined that Mr Osage....

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 11:17:01 am

You know your my favorite bowyer Chris :D

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: blackhawk on February 18, 2014, 11:31:20 am

Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on February 18, 2014, 10:04:58 am

Good looking mulberry Jordo....

At first glance I second guessed it as well n may be mulberry....but I think it is osage...I zoomed in on the smaller branches attached to the tree they were cutting and I do see thorns...kinda hard to see tho,but I do believe I see em...and mulberry don't have thorns....there were thorns on the small branches and limbs right jordo?....

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 11:41:42 am

There was definitely thorns lol.

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Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: Gsulfridge on February 18, 2014, 11:52:03 am

I think the roughness of the end cut and the very wide sapwood makes it hard to identify if that is the only pics you look at.  That ratio looks good from what I can tell.  Good score!!

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: IdahoMatt on February 18, 2014, 02:42:11 pm

Nice work man.  Those look like they will work nicely

Title: Re: My first Osage collection rings on 3
Post by: BOWMAN53 on February 18, 2014, 07:03:27 pm

i got one piece that im anxious to peel and split, im hoping its as snakey as i looks.