Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: mikaluger (Mick Kay) on February 11, 2014, 05:53:51 am
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This is my take on Renaissance style D section english longbow.
Hickory backed Pacific Yew with a bamboo core. 69" NtN, 50lb @ 28". Sambar nocks and arrow rest.
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and more....
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Interesting... not sure I'd call it that,but its your bow n can call it what ya want ;) :laugh:
Next time use a splice to join your yew core/billets....that'll prob hold due to the handle overlays n underlays,but it kinda makes me nervous a wee bit...
Should be a smooth pulling accurate shooter tho ;) ...and that's the goal we aim for :)
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Looks nicely made. I'm intrigued - have you got any images of what you based it on? Doesn't look like any longbow I've ever seen before! (and I'm English ;) )
Renaissance being 14th to 17thC, longbows still looked like... Longbows during that time I believe? Not that it takes anything away from your bow - it's beautiful! I like the shape of the nocks - they look a lot like the one found on the MR.
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Nice work. I like those tips a lot.
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It was apparently the Italians who used what is typically described as this style of bow. Generally it would be described as a long, slightly set back handle bow with very small recurves.
Chris Boyton makes them in this style with laminations.
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nice bow looks a little like a molly to me
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Like others have been saying, i'm not sure that I would call this an english longbow.
It has a drawn profile like that of a mollegabet but a cross section like that of an English longbow. It's neat looking, and looks well built. How does it shoot?
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Nice bow, but not what I'd call an English longbow old chap ;)
Del
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Whatever the thing is, it's still cool. :)
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Aren't there somewhat deflexed longbows depicted in some surviving contemporary depictions of bows in the middle ages? I can't remember right off hand where I saw them but I know I have. I'll look it up later on at home where my books are. Also, didn't Ascham make a reference to "Having the tips brought round" on a bow once it's shot in?
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The thought was that the Crusades influenced longbow design when Sarcacen Archery became known to Europeans. The composite design with retrograde tips and a setback handle would have been a fairly obvious design element that could be added without complicating construction.
If you ever try to make a longbow and add these features the benefit will become immediately apparent.
SuperCracker, I wouldn't put TOO much stock in illustrations. Ascham's recommendation is a reference to whipping the tips slightly,
not the same thing as adding recurves that are rounded in the opposite direction.
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Hi Fella's,
I have a book somewhere, with a plate depicting an English archer from this period using a bow with slightly curved limbs (more at the tips I think) and a rigid handle. This is what I based this bow on. Just a picture. From memory as I cant find the affending mentioned picture....
Im not a historian or renactor, just a carpenter with an interest in making bows and trying different things that come to mind. ;)
It was going to be an ELB, but as the handle is spliced, I could not tiller the bow trough the handle. Hence the rigid riser. I wanted to have a D section bow as I have never made a D section bow from Yew before, but I wanted some speed so I decided to add some reflex 8 inches from the tips.
In hindsight you are correct, it is NOT and english long bow. I should know, my parents were english and I have made a number of ELB's and warbows.
It is an Australians, beer induced, retrospective thought based, materials I had at hand, impulse built, longbow thingy!!!!!..........but that description wont fit in the title box. :)I apologise for the bum steer.
What type of bow is this then? I am interested to see some comments on this.
Buy the way, the above longbow thingy is a cracker to shoot. It picks up the weight very early and is glossy smooth. The yew is a factor here I think, that and the length. Arrow speed is fantastic.
Mick.
Ps
Below is one of my elb's. Hickory backed red oak. 70" ntn, 55lb at 28"
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Very nice.
If it's any help, you can actually tiller a spliced bow full compass. Joe Gibbs has made 160# yew bows bending fully through the handle despite a z-splice in the middle. There's something new to try eh? ;)
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I like the Elm ELB ;D nice.
Del
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Both bows look cool! The second one more closely resembles what comes to my mind with I hear English long bow but I'm certainly no expert. Again I do think the first one is really nice. Good work!
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Cool bows 8)
And "It is an Australians, beer induced, retrospective thought based, materials I had at hand, impulse built, longbow " is the best description of a bow ever.
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I think you built a fine looking bow there.putting your thoughts , likes and personal ldeas into a build is what makes wood bow building so rewarding.