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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: adb on January 25, 2014, 06:18:43 pm
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What's the best (safest) way to brace a static recurve? I have a Bear Grizzly static recurve (circa 1950) and bracing it push/pull gives me the willies. Stringer? If stringer, what type?
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Stringer for sure. Thunderhorn makes a good one. I usually only brace My static Kodiak once a year and then leave it strung, as most risk to a bow is during bracing. Push pull and around the leg will kill a bow limb faster than lightning..Stringer is the only way to go on any bow!!!!,
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Nothing wrong with push/pull on a longbow.
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Adam, I use a stringer with leather cups on each end.
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Nothing wrong with push/pull on a longbow.
:o :o Be carful using the push pull method you could put and eye out or bust your self up side your head.....
I'm with Pat B on this one ...use a stringer......
DBar
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I have always used the push pull method but you have to do it right to avoid damaging the bow or hurting yourself. I have used some stringers that were even worse and more stress than the push pull method. I hate the step through method, I think that is the worst!
Pat is right a good stringer is almost always your best bet but it can be done other ways.
Mark
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Some stringers will destroy a selfbow.
I always use the push/pull, unless the bow has a high draw weight. The step through will work but you have to be very careful how you use it
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I agree with ya Mark and Marc........I've done the push /pull method most of the time. But for beginners it's pretty hard to do, but like every thing else experience and more times you try.. helps. A tight recurve static can be hard to push/pull to string. Something I've been doing is using a bread tie to hold the string on the static at the bottom limb as I use the push / pull method. But It's still difficult to do on a severe static curve. I'm with ya on the stringer but it helps a beginner to get the first bow or two strung.... As far as the step through ..yes I think you have to be very carful ,.........it can twist on ya.
DBar
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Sorry...........Back to answering your question as to "what" stringer.... I like to use a leather cup on the bottom limb with the rubber grip in the upper limb static curve. But this is just IMO.
DBar
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I us e the same as Danz Bar for my 65# Damon Howat. I also have a rubber tip protector on the bottom nock, that holds the string in place as well. Was there when i bought it. Works well, so I left it. Leather cup goes on there and the rubber fitting goes on the top limb as far out to the tip as you can. You'll likely have to adjust the stringer to the right length for the bow and your reach. Way safe than trying to wrestle those crazy recurves into submission right at face level. ;)
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Nothing wrong with push/pull on a longbow.
:o :o Be carful using the push pull method you could put and eye out or bust your self up side your head.....
I'm with Pat B on this one ...use a stringer......
DBar
I'm talking about just a static recurve here though. Push/pull for a longbow, but I'm asking specifically about a static recurve.
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Take it from someone who owns and has owned multiple static recurves. USE A STRINGER!!!!!! I don't know how many I have seen destroyed by push/pull and around the leg. Longbows OK, but not statics. They are much to valuable to be messing around bracing without a stringer....
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Take it from someone who owns and has owned multiple static recurves. USE A STRINGER!!!!!! I don't know how many I have seen destroyed by push/pull and around the leg. Longbows OK, but not statics. They are much to valuable to be messing around bracing without a stringer....
Thanks... sounds like the best option to me.
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Yep use a quality stringer. I use the one that came with my recurve. A cup on one end and a flat rubber piece on the other - no issues getting it strung up.
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Personally for sharply recurved selfbows I prefer the step through method. I know that I am stressing the limbs evenly when I use this method. As for the step through method twisting limbs....well it's not the method per say more how it's executed. You just need to stop and think about what you are doing and get everything lined up.
Otherwise it's push/pull.
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Personally for sharply recurved selfbows I prefer the step through method. I know that I am stressing the limbs evenly when I use this method. As for the step through method twisting limbs....well it's not the method per say more how it's executed. You just need to stop and think about what you are doing and get everything lined up.
Otherwise it's push/pull.
I do the same. If done properlyi can't see how stepthrough can cause any undue dress.
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I push pull every bow I own, including glass and wood. Stringers scare me.
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Step through, for all of them, forever. Never broke one or had one suffer in any way that I can tell. You just have to be aware of how your doing it.
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Interesting....The step trough method is the one I like the least but some people prefer it, goes to show you, to each his own. I use the push pull method on every bow I own even the ones with tight recurves. The trick is when you are pushing the string up the limb you have to keep the string tight and feel that it went into the grooves correctly. Then immediately point the bow away from you and check to make sure the string is in all the groves correctly.
Mark
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I just place the tips between two supports and press down on the handle and slip the loop into the nock. I'll use anything that's handy. One tip on the lower shelf of a work bench and the other on a large block of wood etc. Basically an improvised bow press.
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Take it from someone who owns and has owned multiple static recurves. USE A STRINGER!!!!!! I don't know how many I have seen destroyed by push/pull and around the leg. Longbows OK, but not statics. They are much to valuable to be messing around bracing without a stringer....
I've made literally hundreds of static recurves and I've never seen one destroyed or even heard of one being damaged with the push/pull. You would have to be every negligent, or ignorant, to do so. The step through on the other hand can damage a bow fairly quickly if done wrong, but then so can using the wrong kind of stringer.
A friend who used to make high end glass recurves would not warranty his bows unless the proper kind of stringer was used and that was the double cup stringer.
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Thanks, Marc... I'd hope you'd chime in. I don't like the step through method much either. It's fine if you have some experience, but can easily go south in a hurry if you don't.
The warranty on my longbows is also void if the owner uses step through bracing. I have strung statics with push/pull, but it seems unstable with the extreme curve on the tip, and I was worried about putting harmful stress on the bottom tip using push/pull. OK, I'll stop being a sissy.
Stringers have their place... heavy warbows, for example, with a double groove top nock, but I'm not sure how you could adapt such a thing to a static recurve.
I was hoping to NOT start a huge debate on stringing methods, cuz it's been flogged to DEATH. Looking more towards statics in particular. Thanks to those in the know.
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As I said, you would have to be negligent or ignorant and one of those negligence is stepping down on the tip but then that is a no no regardless of which style of bow you are bracing
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I've got several Kodiak Statics from the fifties, I push-pull them all. I don't like the stringers that sit on the back of the limb and the ones that go over the nocks don't leave enough room for the string.
A word of caution, though, I did crack a cheek bone when one slipped out of my hand while stringing it in the rain. I wore a bow tip bruise for a week.
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well, you have more advice than you can shake a stick at, but I'll tell you. I always used the step through method. Ever since I was 5. For recurves my dad liked to do it barefoot and put the bend of the lower tip over his toes onto the ball of his foot. ( it would look like he was about to step on it) He felt that eliminated twist. On heavy longbows, it sure takes a fellow with a strong core! 8)
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Can someone post a video of each method stringing a static self bow with push/pull, step through and using a stringer?
Cipriano
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Can someone post a video of each method stringing a static self bow with push/pull, step through and using a stringer?
Cipriano
No small task there. Would be a lot of work.
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all i have ever done is step through,ya take the time to aim your bow,dont see any harm in taking time to not twist the limbs and step through. MO.
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Exactly right 4D. As long as you take the time to set up the bow properly with the handle on your leg and bending it so you don't pull one limb sideways. Quite frankly it's just common sense. Don't do to the bow what wouldn't be done as you draw it.
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I've heard that you can damage or break a bow using the step through method, but that's the only method I've ever used and have never damaged or broken a bow in fifty years, but I'm careful!