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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ink on January 22, 2014, 11:22:53 pm

Title: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Ink on January 22, 2014, 11:22:53 pm
As the title states, Whens the next bow trade starting?
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 23, 2014, 07:15:08 am
Jason it can start anytime somebody is willing to grab the reigns and head it up.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 12:20:52 pm
Jason it can start anytime somebody is willing to grab the reigns and head it up.


lol it aint gonna be me
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Pat B on January 23, 2014, 03:18:10 pm
Oh come on Jordan. You know you've got it in ya!  >:D
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 23, 2014, 03:24:02 pm
Yah Jordo! That Christmas swap was a good warmer upper man! Get ya' some!
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 03:44:12 pm
if i do it i would need to make another account just to keep up with all the messages. the bow trade has alot more participants in it than the xmas. idk
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: okie64 on January 23, 2014, 04:43:05 pm
I nominate PD to head it up again!  He did a great job last year. :)
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 04:55:21 pm
ill do it but im gonna need atlease one person to help me out.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 04:57:19 pm
I nominate PD to head it up again!  He did a great job last year. :)

yeah Chris and Chris did a great job last year but i dont think either of them wanna do it again lol.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 23, 2014, 05:31:46 pm
Noper
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: lostarrow on January 23, 2014, 06:52:15 pm
You guys did do a great job ! But I would think two in a row might burn a fella out.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Ink on January 23, 2014, 07:29:26 pm
welp whoever decides to head it up, i intend to participate this year.  :)  Hope we can figure it out soon. The more time we got the better!
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: osage outlaw on January 23, 2014, 07:42:07 pm
You guys did do a great job ! But I would think two in a row might burn a fella out.


I'm pretty sure one is enough to burn a fella out.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 07:46:25 pm
You guys did do a great job ! But I would think two in a row might burn a fella out.

lol yeah but i kinda like doing it, im just barely finishing up with running the xmas trade. im waiting to hear back on something then ill get it started.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Blaflair2 on January 23, 2014, 07:55:51 pm
The bow trade u need a subscription and whatnot right? I didn't plan on joining this year, maybe I'll be more up to snuff next year. Just curious. Love watching the thread though!
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 23, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
The bow trade u need a subscription and whatnot right? I didn't plan on joining this year, maybe I'll be more up to snuff next year. Just curious. Love watching the thread though!

you dont need a sub to join the trade.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Blaflair2 on January 24, 2014, 11:51:19 am
Oh really? I thought u did.id join this year, but I don't wanna send someone my 4th or 5th bow. I wanna be more on par
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2014, 12:00:52 pm
These bow trades are for anyone and everyone. The main requirement is that you do the best you can for your recipient. It doesn't matter if you have only built a few bows or a hundred bows as long as you do your best for your recipient. It is about pushing your ability and improving your bow making and not about the bow you might receive. You may receive a bow from one of our "experts" but you might receive a bow from a beginner. The trade is about the bow you send out and not the one you receive. Sometimes we will settle for just OK for a bow for ourselves but for someone else you will do your absolute best for them.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2014, 12:12:38 pm
I totally agree with Pat. With the exception that I feel its crucial that you've made at least a few proven bows. Quite a few of the make up bows Ive made over the last 3 years where for folks who got all excited and signed up only to realize it was too early and they couldn't make it happen. As Ive said a 100 times before, finish and fancy means zero in this swap, but the bow should be safe to draw and shoot. 
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: half eye on January 24, 2014, 12:32:12 pm
Pat, with all due respect, I do not believe that was the case with this years swap. Folks even had to gain admittance by OK of "the committee" as to their suitability, and then post up progress reports, so I don't believe it was for anybody and everybody. Make up bows been done since the very first swap and probably will for as long as the swap occurs.

Just one guy's opinion
rich
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2014, 12:50:32 pm
I somewhat agree, Rich but the guys running the swap have to deal with the issues the best they can. The bow swaps have always been for everyone and anyone but if someone can't build a safe, shootable bow they shouldn't get in....until they can. I think Pearlie said it well in his previous post.
 Some folks see these trades as a way to get a new bow for free. If they forget about the bow that they might receive and concentrate on building the best bow they can build for their recipient the trade will be a success and they will be better wood bow builders. I've participated in every bow trade except for last year(on PA ND TG). Most of the bows I have received have been from beginners but I could tell from the bow that the builder did the best he could for the knowledge and the materials he had on hand. They are all a cherished part of my collection along with bows from the best wood bow builders out there, you included.
...and thank goodness we have folks willing to build make-up bows for anyone that might get stiffed. That is what makes our community one of the best there is...and the deadbeats get a special place in Mullet's "little black book"!  ;)
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2014, 01:00:15 pm
The "rules" can be whatever the facilitators decide them to be. If you want change? Grab those dangling reigns and do so. Im not barking at you Rich, just offering a chance to change what you see fit.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: dbb on January 24, 2014, 01:15:42 pm
I would love to get in on next trade,and im confident i could make a bow that i can be proud to give away now.
BUT that would set someone up for a stiff shippingcost as i live in sweden so i guess i just have to drool at all the cool bows....again  :'(
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: 4dog on January 24, 2014, 01:59:50 pm
whats it cost to get a bow over to sweden anyway?  :-\
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2014, 02:20:05 pm
Cost about two fitty to send Danny a swap bow in England.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 24, 2014, 02:31:26 pm
i know a guy contacted me about being willing to ship from australia to the U.S in the next xmas trade. he doesnt expect anything in return either because of the high shipping rate. i cant remember who it was specifically but if i hear from him again if he sees this post ill see what he says.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: dbb on January 24, 2014, 02:46:07 pm
whats it cost to get a bow over to sweden anyway?  :-\

shipping a 70" 5" tube from sweden to alabama (just random loc) is around 100dollars with fedex international.
Dont know the other way around.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 24, 2014, 02:49:53 pm
whats it cost to get a bow over to sweden anyway?  :-\

shipping a 70" 5" tube from sweden to alabama (just random loc) is around 100dollars with fedex international.
Dont know the other way around.

thats not too bad, should be way cheaper if you make a short bow and put it in a thinner tube.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: dbb on January 24, 2014, 02:56:08 pm
no big difference until it gets really short.
and you dont know who you draw...it might be some gorilla with 33"draw  ;D
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 24, 2014, 09:29:27 pm
im waiting to hear back on something then ill get it started.

I think he has heard...
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: 2014_Trade_Runner on January 25, 2014, 01:39:34 am
check
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Blaflair2 on January 25, 2014, 07:36:59 am
How long is the trade? Like dead lines and stuff?
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: 4dog on January 25, 2014, 08:30:56 am
details!   details!   ;D
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Ink on January 25, 2014, 05:52:28 pm
Lol i love the account name. kinda hard to get that confused :laugh:
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Ink on January 25, 2014, 05:55:40 pm
I guess that settles it, Bowman53 and JW are gonna be spearheading it this go round. I'm ready when ya'll are!!!! Just split out a sweet stave today in preperation.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 25, 2014, 07:56:51 pm
WHAT?!?!?!


HUH!?!?!


Who?  Oh my....


NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Crogacht on January 25, 2014, 08:17:01 pm
i know a guy contacted me about being willing to ship from australia to the U.S in the next xmas trade. he doesnt expect anything in return either because of the high shipping rate. i cant remember who it was specifically but if i hear from him again if he sees this post ill see what he says.

I think that was me Bowman, but I'm in New Zealand... it's all the same though :P both countries are reeeal far away haha.

I won't be able to participate in the bow trade this year, but I'm hoping to have something worth sending for Christmas this year. I haven't even started on my staves yet, as our 3rd child just arrived yesterday, but it shouldn't be long before I can post up some pictures.

I'm just waiting to hear back from NZ Post as to how much a package of that size and weight would cost to ship to USA. I imagine items leaving New Zealand for USA will probably cost more than the other way around. I can get a 30kg vice shipped from USA to my place for under $100. So it just depends how somewhat strange dimensions will affect the cost. I may be able to get quotes from other freight companies that would possibly be cheaper, but we'll see.

As for the trade itself, like I said, I'm just starting out, so I would be more than happy to send something, but I wouldn't want to burden someone with excessive freight costs. I would see it as giving something back to everyone on here, because without this community, it would take me years to figure out something I can discover on PA in 10 minutes. I hope to one day get over the Pacific, but not in the next couple of years I don't think.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Ink on January 25, 2014, 08:27:42 pm
WHAT?!?!?!


HUH!?!?!


Who?  Oh my....


NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
LOL, welp looks like your stuck
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: 4dog on January 25, 2014, 08:33:26 pm
looks like Jdub finally went over the edge!   lol   he just needed a lil nudge.
Title: Re: Whens the next Bow Trade?
Post by: Crogacht on January 31, 2014, 04:17:42 am
i know a guy contacted me about being willing to ship from australia to the U.S in the next xmas trade. he doesnt expect anything in return either because of the high shipping rate. i cant remember who it was specifically but if i hear from him again if he sees this post ill see what he says.

I think that was me Bowman, but I'm in New Zealand... it's all the same though :P both countries are reeeal far away haha.

I won't be able to participate in the bow trade this year, but I'm hoping to have something worth sending for Christmas this year. I haven't even started on my staves yet, as our 3rd child just arrived yesterday, but it shouldn't be long before I can post up some pictures.

I'm just waiting to hear back from NZ Post as to how much a package of that size and weight would cost to ship to USA. I imagine items leaving New Zealand for USA will probably cost more than the other way around. I can get a 30kg vice shipped from USA to my place for under $100. So it just depends how somewhat strange dimensions will affect the cost. I may be able to get quotes from other freight companies that would possibly be cheaper, but we'll see.

As for the trade itself, like I said, I'm just starting out, so I would be more than happy to send something, but I wouldn't want to burden someone with excessive freight costs. I would see it as giving something back to everyone on here, because without this community, it would take me years to figure out something I can discover on PA in 10 minutes. I hope to one day get over the Pacific, but not in the next couple of years I don't think.

Well I finally heard back from the post shop, I gave them rough dimensions and weight and told them I was sending it to Tennessee (just picked a random state :P). It would be around $200 USD, maybe a little less, as I overestimated on the weight just incase. While that's quite a lot, it probably wouldn't stop me from sending something over. Will see how things are going next time the trade comes around. Christmas trade would be cheaper as I would probably send smaller things :)