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Title: Smoking pipes
Post by: stringstretcher on January 11, 2014, 12:56:12 pm
I am looking for old pipes that no one uses any more and would be willing to trade for some archery stuff.  As long as they can be restored to a smoking condition would be great.  Even busted ones that have good stems or bowls and no stems.  I know there are plenty laying around out there, so any help would be greatly appreciated.  And yes, this is primitive archery, as I will smoke it when hunting.  It would be nice to have some pipes from some of the best group of guys on the net, and take a part of you with me in the woods.
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Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on January 11, 2014, 01:45:14 pm
Hey charlie,

What are you looking to trade?
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 11, 2014, 01:51:03 pm
I have cane,  some string material, lots of shoot arrow shafting, sinew, and maybe a stave or two here that I can let go.  And I have several pieces of ground obsidian for flake over grinding and a few pieces of mix/match flint or what ever it is.  If you have something special in mind, let me know?
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 12, 2014, 03:18:33 pm
Now I know there are plenty of old pipes laying around in some of the people on here. Help me out to build a Primitive Archery Smoking Pipe collection.  Sure would love to hear from some of you.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 12, 2014, 03:36:33 pm
Hmmm...  I smoke a pipe when camping but not hunting.  Doesn't the smoke scare things away?  Yes, I'm a smartass, but I've never tried smoking while on the hunt.  How do you do it?

And I do have some old wooden pipes hanging around but I use them all.  ;D
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 12, 2014, 03:59:49 pm
Jack I have killed deer with a cigarette in my mouth.  Some of the scented tobaccos can even be an attractant to an certain extent. Apple flavor.  For me it is nothing more than the pure pleasure of a relaxing smoke while hunting.  Lot of stories of old of primitive hunters going in a smoke lodge before a hunt.  It is just something I  like, enjoy and make the hunt, especially if it is in a pipe that was from another traditional bow hunter.  Having some of his spirits with me.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 12, 2014, 04:05:35 pm
Dang.  I've got to try that now.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 12, 2014, 04:09:39 pm
Here's my last home made pipe. I made it in 2004.  You've inspired me to make a new one!

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/03-15-10/DSC_1656.jpg)
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 12, 2014, 05:20:34 pm
That is so beautiful Jack.  I too and going to start looking around for a good piece of burell wood to maybe make one.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 12, 2014, 08:58:48 pm
Awesome.
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Post by: Pat B on January 12, 2014, 11:43:38 pm
Charlie, mountain laurel root is supposed to be almost as good as meerschaum for pipe bowls.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 12, 2014, 11:50:44 pm
Hey!  I know where to get mountain laurel root.  You sure it's good?  It's not going to give me brain damage or anything, is it?   ::)
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Post by: Pat B on January 13, 2014, 12:07:32 am
I've made pipes out of it and it didn't hurt me.  :-\   I believe there used to be a pipe industry using Mt Laurel(Kalmia latifolia) here in the mountains a hundred years ago.
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 13, 2014, 12:58:26 am
Hmm... I was sure that someone would have jumped in and added a smart remark.  We left ourselves wide open...   ;D

I'll try the laurel root.
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Post by: criveraville on January 13, 2014, 01:21:26 am
I always wanted a pipe to smoke apple scented out of.. Being an English major I felt it was my duty to. When I lived in California and was 17 I walked into a gas station and asked for an old looking wooden pipe. Well they had ALL kinds of pipes and the clerk was certain I really wanted a pipe for smoking drugs. I had to convince him that no!! I wanted an old pipe for plain jane tobacco.
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 13, 2014, 07:13:45 am
Hey Pat?  You started digging me up about a bushel of it yet?
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Post by: Dharma on January 13, 2014, 04:51:51 pm
I have two pipes, very nice ones, I can trade. PM me if interested.
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Post by: Dharma on January 13, 2014, 04:53:52 pm
One is a British made dark briar and the other is an Italian light briar. Both are available.
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 13, 2014, 06:25:38 pm
Dharma, you have a pm.
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Post by: MWirwicki on January 14, 2014, 09:33:54 am
My late Uncle Dan smoked a pipe.  In his honor, I'll do the same especially during deer season.  I'll see what I can dig up, Charlie.
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 14, 2014, 09:47:49 am
Thank you so very very much Matt.  Would be nice to take you along on a hunt with me.  Maybe I would get some good MoJo.  Tell everyone hello for me.
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Post by: mullet on January 15, 2014, 02:08:13 pm
Like I said in the pM, got you covered when I get home. ;)
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 19, 2014, 08:54:12 am
If there are any others that would or could find some pipes to add to my traditional pipe smoker collection and be a part of some of my outings, please keep me in mind.  I am sure we can work some trades out.
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Post by: bowtarist on January 19, 2014, 10:49:27 am
All this talk about pipes got me thinking. The other night I woke up in the middle of the night and went to a big trunk my Grandpa had made for me in the 80's, reached in and came out with a pipe I had gotten from my other Grandpa after his death and put it w/ my stuff for work the next day.  On my way home from work I stopped at the tobacco shop and bought an once of a couple different types of pipe tobacco and enjoyed a pipe on the 1 1/2 hour drive home from work Thursday and Friday.  If I get tired of it, I'll send you the pipe, but for now, a pipe on the long cold, my heat doesnt work so great in the car, drive home is relaxing. Thanks for giving me the idea.  ;D dp
Title: Re: Smoking pipes
Post by: stringstretcher on January 19, 2014, 11:06:24 am
My pleasure.  I know how keep sakes are.  I have two that I got from my Dad and usually smoke them daily.  But please keep me in mind if you decide other wise to let it go.  It would definitely be a treasure for me as well.
Title: Re: Smoking pipes
Post by: Blind Dog on January 21, 2014, 10:06:22 am
Stringstretcher, what are you looking for? I quit smoking nearly 30 years ago but still have a collection of various vintage smoking pipes. I've a nice Dunham and a very nice Burley as well one carved into the shape of an elephant's head and various smaller styles. Most are in need of a new stem but the bowels are all still in very good shape.


Blind Dog
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Post by: stringstretcher on January 21, 2014, 10:09:01 am
Blind Dog, you have a PM.
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 07, 2014, 06:09:06 am
Still looking for smoking pipes, so keep me in mind everyone.  And Blind Dog, you did not answer your PM?
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Post by: ohma2 on February 07, 2014, 10:48:30 am
String send me mail info, I have a couple you can have.steve
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Post by: ohma2 on February 07, 2014, 11:01:14 am
Read a paper done by a couple researchers on tobacco products and hunting the number one thing that showed a reaction in deer was chewing products.aside from the movement smoking had no negative efect.
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Post by: nclonghunter on February 07, 2014, 12:03:07 pm
When hunting with a bow, a second defense weapon and pipe could be handy. The blade does not have to be sharp, which could be hazardous to cutting the bow string. A dull blade swung hard will not be a pleasant result. The "Peace Pipe" was said to be smoked with a friend or the other side to kill the person if it was decided they were not your friend. It represents "Love and War".
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 07, 2014, 12:17:13 pm
Now that's a pipe.  Bet that would draw some attention for sure. 
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 07, 2014, 12:20:34 pm
Ohma2, you have a PM with the info.
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 12, 2014, 07:18:19 am
Keep looking around every one.  I know there has to be more pipes out there not being used.  Keep me in mind please.
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Post by: stickbender on February 20, 2014, 10:49:06 pm

     Pat, were you thinking of Briar, and not Meerschaum?  That is a white stone, that is carved into faces, and such, on the bowls.

                                                                               Wayne
Title: Re: Smoking pipes
Post by: Pat B on February 21, 2014, 12:37:24 am
I stand corrected, Wayne. Yes I meant briar but it has another more specific name.
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 21, 2014, 02:12:28 pm
Where are all you old pipes at Pat from the 70's????  LOL
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Post by: Mohawk13 on February 21, 2014, 02:51:42 pm
I have and use a Nice Italian Rolex pocket briar....
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Post by: Pat B on February 21, 2014, 03:07:55 pm
I can't remember, Charlie.  8)  You wouldn't want them anyway. They all had this black tar stuff in them.  ::)
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Post by: stringstretcher on February 21, 2014, 04:02:59 pm
LOL....just saying.
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Post by: stringstretcher on March 07, 2014, 09:42:10 am
Still looking for those not used any more pipes that are just laying around.  Let me know what you have.
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Post by: Kullas on March 07, 2014, 11:33:40 pm
I have a couple of hand made clay pipes if you are interested.
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Post by: stringstretcher on March 08, 2014, 03:19:39 pm
I sure am Kullas. 
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Post by: Kullas on March 08, 2014, 11:40:45 pm
Email sent
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Post by: RedBear1313 on April 27, 2014, 11:36:36 am
What about catlinite or minnesota pipe stone?

I have raw blank stone and couple of pipe blanks in various stages.
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Post by: Wiley on April 27, 2014, 08:50:44 pm
Do ya'll think dogwood (cornus florida) would make a good pipe? I've got some extra pieces laying around waiting on them to adequately season and have been thinking of making a pipe or two from it. I really like this wood, real tight grained, hard enough to be polished very smooth. If it won't make a good pipe I can come up with other stuff to do with it. Looked around on the internet and couldn't find too many examples of pipes made from dogwood so I thought I'd ask.
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Post by: RedBear1313 on April 27, 2014, 09:03:13 pm
wood that will make a good pipe needs to be both super dense and non poisonous.

that's why they use the burls of the briar bush.

it's the tannins in some woods that are poisonous.
Title: Re: Smoking pipes
Post by: Wiley on April 27, 2014, 10:43:47 pm
It's definitely dense, almost as dense as briar burl. As far as I know it's non poisonous. I do know it contains at least enough tannin to react with iron and turn dark. Might soak it in water for a long time and attempt to leech as much tannin out of it as I can if it's any real concern.
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Post by: RedBear1313 on April 28, 2014, 05:14:07 am
since i'm no chemist I can't say how to determine the poison level.  (i can't say the amount of tannins directly correlates with the amount of poison)

I think it just depends on the type of tannin.

I used to work in cabinetry and I know some exotic and spalted woods are poisonous to breathe the dust or smoke out of.

like rosewood, prolly cocobola.

and spalted means that it fell, began to rot, then became petrified.
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Post by: Wiley on April 28, 2014, 08:31:27 pm
I know what spalting is. It's a few different kinds of fungus eating away at the wood. Personification is a different thing entirely, it is a process that occurs to wood in an anerobic enviroment like a it fell down in a bog. Without air to nourish most of the fungus and bacteria that normally break wood down, it petrifies, slowly turning itself into something of a fossil over the course of thousands of years.

As far as woods go, dogwood is listed as having no adverse health effects in terms of working with it. Probably a good sign it will make a good pipe. A good number of domestic woods are as nasty as some of the exotics, I like to look up the woods i'm working with on wood-database, they have a pretty good list of the commonly used woods and their effects on the body.