Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Don Case on December 31, 2013, 11:35:14 pm
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I got a 14" Savedge Farriers rasp for Christmas. Boy does it cut wood! I can do a lot of damage with this thing. The cardboard sleeve it came in is not going to last long. I was thinking of a leather or plywood sleeve. What do you use?
Thanks
Don
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I use a larger bike tire tube that slides over the rasp nicely. I keep all my rasps protected in bike tire pieces.
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I use a larger bike tire tube that slides over the rasp nicely. I keep all my rasps protected in bike tire pieces.
That is brilliant, Clint! Bike shops throw out a lot of tire tubes daily, cheap and effective rasp sleeves.
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Well you lucky dog! ;D I looked at those about a month back and almost bought me one, 30 bucks I believe is what it was! I decided to wait. Wish I woulda gotten it then. I have a Shinto currently but that Savedge looked like it would put the Shinto to shame on hogging wood.
I hang most of mine from a nail on a shelf above my bench that way they are handy. I have thought about making a canvas type holder for a few of my tools; one with pockets so I can slide them in and then roll it up so I can carry them easier whenever I'm not at home. That Savedge seems like it would wear some leather out pretty quick going in and out. Might have to line it with kydex or something of the sort and make it a little loose for the rough side.
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Like your idea too Clint. That's a lot easier than what I was thinkin.
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Ive been tryin to tell people bout the Save edge,for a while now.Watch em when they are new,they will cut ya and you wont even know it till you see the blood.
I use pieces of hand line fire hose to store mine in.
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I may have to make something like that for traveling to gatherings. Mine just set on my wood bench.
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Ive been tryin to tell people bout the Save edge,for a while now.Watch em when they are new,they will cut ya and you wont even know it till you see the blood.
I use pieces of hand line fire hose to store mine in.
I remember you telling me about the save edge, I still haven't tried one. I have been using the 40 dollar ones from tracker supply co for years now. I'd sure like to try one out though.
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I paid $60 for mine. (I buy my own Christmas presents) I have looked at the net and found them in the $30 range. $10 shipping and some tax gets me within the "I want it now" range so I'm not upset at the price. I tried it on some old chunks of dry OS and I bet with a little pressure I could take off almost 1/4" at a swipe. Long controlled pushes peels off dozens of foot long curlies. It is almost scary. Like I said before I think it would be easy to ruin a stave with this. My bandsaw has met it's match(well, almost) ;D ;D ;D
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Have a look at Auriou rasps for the ultimate......I treated myself to 3 of them for Christmas. These tools are delightful to work with. ;)
for storage I made some leather pockets. I made the bottom piece sit flat with an edge reinforcer and then cut the top piece of the 'sandwich' 1/2 inch wider so that when it is stitched on the top piece is convex. This allows the rasp to slide in and out easily and more importantly without taking shavings of leather with it.
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I had some leather laying around and made a simple sheath for mine.
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I abuse mine and offer them zero protection. Honestly? They work great and Ive only replaced my rasps once in 150 (or so) bows.
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I prefer a Nicholson Farrier's Rasp (http://www.amazon.com/Nicholson-Farrier-American-Pattern-Rectangular/dp/B004HW6AV0), as they comes with rounded flat edges that make working the rasp with two hands easy and very safe. Price is also quite reasonable. Once I bought a pair of these, I haven't hardly touched any of my other rasps or files, except for my chain saw file that I use to cut nocks.
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I Have Given away many of my used Save edge to folks through the years.Gave about 20 of em to John Strunk and he said,after using one of them,that he doubts,he will use more than 5 of em,for the rest of his life.He was so impressed,that he gave me one of his arrow planes and a bunch of his doug fir arrow blanks,in trade.
Ed Scott uses em in his classes as well.
Lets put it this way....
I would never hand a brand new Save edge,to an aspiring Farrier as they could easily draw blood with them.If anyone gets a new one,i suggest you use it with care or youll be making a few kids bows untill you do.LOL
PS.If you use a Farriers rasp,i suggest you use one of the many styles of handles available for them.It gives the best control and hand comfort.The screw on wood ones work well and are the best value,for someone that doesnt use them daily,otherwise i suggest the aluminum set screw type.I advise against the Plastic slip on type.
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Is there a clamp-on handle for the far end(or whatever you call it)?
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Yes Don,
Dean Torges used to sell a handle of sort,that fits on the blunt end of a rasp.
With a little practice,the technique of using the meaty part of your palm and your fingers as a stop control,on the end will work well.When i use my hand on the tang or handle end,i just cup it in my palm.I dont grip it very tight,unless im using it to scoop material in a concentrated area.
This brings up another point i didnt mention.
With a bit of practice,a Farriers rasp is a very versatile tool for bowyery.The small side edge can be used much like a toothing plane for scoring for a gluing surface as well.You have the rough side for hogging,the smooth surface for finer removal,you can shape handles dips ,fades and tips with it and when using the edge and some experimentation and practice,you can use it as a scraper as well.Its all in the stoke length and pressure used.I have made complete bows with nothing more than a Farriers rasp, sandpaper and a pencil for tools.LOL
Its really not that difficult.It sounds much more difficult in print than in person.But then again,ive used one for over 30 years and use it for a living.LOL
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Lets put it this way....
I would never hand a brand new Save edge,to an aspiring Farrier as they could easily draw blood with them.
Blood from the horse or the farrier?
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I paid $60 for mine.
Wow! Just looked them up in the UK. First hit on Google (Atlantic Equine) has them for £17.1 + tax + delivery at cost. £17.1 + tax is 17.1 x 1.2 = £20.52 = $32.83 + delivery. Your $60 vendor saw you coming!
Savedge do handles as well.
Peter
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Blood from the horse or the farrier?
Both but my main concern,would be from the Horse.
Aspiring farriers usually havent developed a good eye and feel,for the nippers and their use.They often dont get a very level nip and therefore get the level with a rasp.If they havent developed a feel for the rasp and how much pressure and stroke to use,they can easily hog too much hoof wall and sole off and hit blood and create lameness.
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I don't like handles on my farrier rasps. I like the Nicholson farrier rasps with no tang, just orange rubber on the ends. But I get more use out of my Nicholson 49's and 50's.
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I'm going to have to do something. The heel of my thumb falls right on the single cut portion of the fine side and I can feel it trying to slice my hand in tiny little slices. I'm going to get a small bike tube and stretch it over the end to cover that section. I'm only bleeding a bit. It's a badge of honor, kind of like a skateboarder with a cast. It's a workout though, by the time I rough out the bow I'll probably be able to pull it :D
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I use a larger bike tire tube that slides over the rasp nicely. I keep all my rasps protected in bike tire pieces.
I appreciate Clint's detail..................
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Same here Traxx, I use the farrier's rasp like you described. It's great for leveling the tips for overlays also. Great tool for working on hardwood foots and reducing hardwood shoots arrow shafts.
Don, do a search for a farrier's rasp at Tractor Supply. They sell nice big screw-on handles for the rasps. An Ace bandage wrapped around the other end works great.........Art
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I have an old Heller Nucut farrier's rasp that I had sharpened by the folks at Boggs tool and file sharpening. It, and the other rasps that I sent them, came back very sharp.
Fact is, I'm typing this with a bandage on the base of my left thumb due to a bit of a slip up with a sharp small rasp a little while ago... :( :-[