Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: burchett.donald on December 28, 2013, 12:44:40 am
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Fellas, I made something I was pretty happy with today, thought I'd share it and see what ya think. I made knife cases but never tried my hand at a hawk case. Trying to do this KHalverson railroad spike head some justice. Still have to oil her up and burnish the edges and then put a handle in...Will make the belt loop tomorrow...Thanks for looking...
Don
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Nice work, Don and it will protect you and the hawk. ;)
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Thanks Pat, yea I was having nightmares of carrying it in my belt...It will actually shave the hair of my arm. It's for when I run out of arrows and bullets. >:D
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Don
that sheath looks great.
I cannot wait to see the finished package.
Kevin
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Got the hawk on a solid piece of hickory and a good deep wedge to hold her down. Got to figure out a design for the handle now. Maybe scallops or some burned in designs.
Kevin, thanks, yea I'm enjoying all this...will post progress as I go until finished, might be slow though.
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Very nice work! I wouldn't scallop the hande, but would either do some wood burning, design, inlays, or light relief, carving, like a vine, or snake entwined around the handle. or various totems, like the owl on the scabbard, deer, or elk head, buffalo head, moosehead, (Dang, that reminds me I am out of Pabst!!) bear, hog, turkey, mountain lion, etc. You could have two snakes, crisscrossing, around the handle, and ending up with a head on each side, and a tail on each side, with the head or heads, at or near the hawk head, or at the butt of the handle. You could end up with the heads on edge of the handle, and facing ahead, rather than facing towards the edge of the hawk head., or just have a snake on each side, ending up, facing the hawk edge. Sorry, just got to thinking....... not what I am used to doing. ::) :P ;D Again, nice work. Are you going to stain the handle?
Wayne
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Wayne,
I never tried carving but thought about wood burning some deer tracks and maybe a few brass tacks. Half eye (Rich) posted a beauty a while back that got me started on this one. His had scallops and looked nice...Thanks for the ideas, still undecided...
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Hmmm, didja know that one of the worst predators on hawks are great horned owls? Now you have a sheath in direct conflict with what it is supposed to be protecting. Bad juju! Baaaaad!
All that juju stuff aside, that's a nice design for a hawk sheath. It will ride nice and secure to protect the blade and it's user, but still come off easily enough when needed! Good work.
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Thanks JW, I didn't know that hawks and owls were enemies...Sure hope these two get along. Still working on the handle, maybe I can finish this weekend...
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Got the handle reduced and sanded...Took a pencil and sketched a barred owl and a big buck track...
My plan is to come back over with a wood burner...Got some scalloping to do and maybe some brass inlay or tacks...Still thinking :-\
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OK, got the wood burner hot and went for it...First time ever with a wood burner...The Cross will be brass inlay when I get back in the shop.
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Well for the first time with a wood burner, you did very well! 8) There are various styles, and types, and sizes of pryographic, tools available. You can do feathers, right down to the little barbs on the feathers, and such. A lot of the decoy, and bird carvers use them. I like it! Are you going to slice grooves for the cross? You can use fret wire, and or German Silver, and flatten one edge, and insert that edge, and use epoxy if you want, and or just pound the edge in, and then you can use various tipped punches, and chisels, to shape the cross, into a plain cross, or a more fancy one, like the French ones, with the flared ends. Then light file, sand, and polish it. You did that Tomahawk sweet justice! Just keep it out of J.W.'s reach. ;) Especially with the Owl on it! ;)
Wayne
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Thats some good looking work Don, cool project.
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Thanks stickbender and Badly Bent for checking in...
Used a sharpened 1/8 drill bit (butt end) and carved out the cross. Took some 1/8 brass stock and epoxied it in. Maybe file it down the coming weekend...Wayne I used what I had laying around the shop, never done this before. One day I might go high tech and get some good tools for these projects...
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looking fiiine! doin that hawkhead justice!
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Nice work!
But i fear that it will pop out when you use it.
I did some inlays on an axe a few years ago and it kept popping out untill i put thin nails in angle before i glued it in place
I made nails of the same material as the inlay ,Nicklesilver in my case,but those thin nails for wallhooks should work if you have the same problem.
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That is way cool!
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Very very nice.
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Finally completed... K.Halverson Railroad Spike head, hickory handle, brass cross, woodburned owl and deer track...Scalloped handle feels good in the hand...This was a fun project, hope you like it.
Don
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Very nice Don - the Cross came out real well. Still not sure about having an Owl on there tho . Bob
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Thanks Bob, As you can see I love and respect the Owl...My favorite thing to hear in the woods especially when they start cackling amongst themselves. I've seen the Barred Owl take many squirrels while waiting for deer. They have the patience of Job and you never hear them fly. One of the greatest hunters there is.
Don
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Don
that looks great.
Kevin
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Thanks Kevin, couldn't have done it without you...
Don
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That's an outstanding hawk. I too admire owls from little saw-whets, to Great Grey's.....sort of like the perfect killing machine 8) Great lookin hawk Don.
rich
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Very nice Don, love it. Now get that thing dirty with some use, it'll only get better looking with age. :)
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Thankyou 4dog, I tried hard.
dbb, I will keep your idea in mind, I have peened brass on some knives so I could pull it off if it loosens.
Went tam, glad you like it. 8)
Parnel, thanks for the compliment buddy.
Rich, coming from you means a lot, thank you sir. Your post on the presentation hawk got my blood boiling.
Greg, that's the plan. I'll carry it this hunting season Lord willing.
Don
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8)
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Don
glad to be a small part of it.
you finished a great looking package .
Kevin
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Man I just had to pull this thread to the top just to give thanks to Don . this tomahawk with the leather sheath Don so kindly mailed it to me. Thank you Don . this tomahawk is sweet . the attention to detail is great. And the owls are sweet to . thanks again Don.
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That is awesome !!!
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Bob,
Your welcome my friend...Hope it serves you well ;)
Don
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Hell of a hawk. How did you drift it? Nice job.
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Beautiful job! The only thing, I should have suggested, was to to flatten the back of the cross, and sides, and run a groove in the sides, before applying the epoxy, and inserting the cross, I think it would hold a bit better. Have you thought of doing that with bone? Like I said for someone who has never used burning tools, you did extremely well. Like I said, there a lot of various types of blades, for the hand pieces, from large, to small, scales, feathers, etc., it takes a steady hand, and eye, and the right touch to do a good wood burning. Too much pressure, too long in one spot, too much heat, etc. can ruin a project in a heart beat. It is a beautiful art form. There is a neat combination unit, I have seen at one of the wood carving clubs, it has the Burner, and carving hand piece and motor, all in one unit, and is actually cheaper than purchasing them separately. The wood carver motor is not for large projects, but performs very well on smaller hand held projects, and for detail work on larger projects. The burner unit is adjustable, and the hand piece can take various burning blades. I have seen some phenomenal work, done with pyrography. You definitely have the innate ability. Again beautiful work. AND LUCKY RECIPIENT !!! Just nice work all around, your work, and KW's . ;) 8) I finally broke down, after years of trying to justify the expense, and bought a Granfors Bruks, hatchet. It is close to being a tomahawk. Very light, well balanced, and hand forged, and signed, and a 20 year warranty. It is the hunters axe, or hatchet. It has the thinner poll, and is somewhat rounded, to facilitate with skinning . You can start the skinning, and pull the skin up, and hit between the skin, and carcass, to loosen, and peel the hide back. Very pleased with it, but the price is way up there, but I finally convinced myself that if I did not get one now, I might not get the chance to get one, later. Plus this was in a big Sporting goods, store, in Kalispell, so there was no tax, as there would be if I got it elsewhere. I decided it was time I bought something for myself, and justified it with, butchering Deer, Elk, and other big game, plus using it as an all around camp, and hiking tool. It just feels great in the hand. Came with a "Real" leather case. Not anything real fancy, but well made, and supple, and serves it's purpose well. I spent too much for it, but if you want something really nice you will have to pay for it. It is more expensive than a bigger hatchet, or axe. Supposedly, because the smaller ones are more time consuming. Could be. Anyway, I am very happy with it.
Wayne
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Thanks for the compliment Wayne...I am going to do as you suggested and invest in some pyrography tools, something for more detail. Never thought of using bone but have used it on knife handles, sounds like an idea ;)
Don
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Longbow man, what did you mean by drift it?
Don
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That is a nice piece of work.
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Thanks swamp yeti, it was a fun project for me...
Don
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Whether you drill out the head or roll over the steel and hammer forge it a drift can be used to true up the hole to make a tear drop shape. Notice how a hawk handle is tear drop in cross section? A drift is a tool much like a short tomahawk handle. Insert it into the hole and finish forging it to shape. The drifts I have seen are of cast iron so as not to stick to the red hot steel. I plan to forge weld a hawk soon with mild steel and a high carbon insert. Will let you know the results.
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Longbowman, The railroad spike head was forged by a man by the name of K.Halverson who is a member here on PA... He would be the one to contact on his technique. I do know the hole was slightly tapered and I used a Zebra wood wedge and smooth on epoxy to mount the head. Thanks for looking...
Don