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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Gaur on December 18, 2013, 09:49:14 am

Title: osage design question
Post by: Gaur on December 18, 2013, 09:49:14 am
well I came by some nice 20 year old osage from a guy in Michigan who planned to make a few bows but never got around to it.
I started splitting them down more yesterday.   This is one of the sets of billets that really interests me.  At first when I looked at them I thought to put the bend out at the tips but now I'm wondering if it would be better to put the  bend out of the handle area?  I'll use my take down sleeves.  What do you think?
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/bamboo_archer/IMG_0834_zps37755b28.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bamboo_archer/media/IMG_0834_zps37755b28.jpg.html)

Here is another really nice set of staves.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/bamboo_archer/IMG_0835_zps89150b83.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bamboo_archer/media/IMG_0835_zps89150b83.jpg.html)
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 18, 2013, 09:50:54 am
Looks snakey Randy, nice. Id put the reflex at the tips muself.
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: artcher1 on December 18, 2013, 09:57:59 am
Yep, at the tips as Pearly mentioned. With that much reflex right out of the handle, stress relief for those limbs would be long and make for a slower bow...........Art
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: TimBo on December 18, 2013, 02:04:53 pm
That top pair already looks like a takedown static recurve!  Most of the work is done - now you just have to remove the parts that don't look like a bow...
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Gaur on December 18, 2013, 02:45:31 pm
I was thinking the same thing Timbo.  I'm looking forward to making into a bow shortly.  I just wanted to think of all the options and have seen where people put more bend in the handle area.  I'll put them out on the tips.  I think its plenty long.  Should a good static tip be 64" or 66"?
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Pat B on December 18, 2013, 03:55:01 pm
Recurves should be shorter. IMO
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: artcher1 on December 18, 2013, 04:21:29 pm
I think with those curves being natural, you could make them lighter and therefore would still be strong. Probably wouldn't wind up with any extra tip weight. But it's all about design anyhow.  I know 65" works fine ;)........Art
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: bubby on December 18, 2013, 04:23:01 pm
i'd go 62" ttt, I mean, it is osage
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 18, 2013, 04:33:47 pm
If you leave them as is and don't hook them over more your really only building a flip tipped flat bow and those tips will bend, so the typical 62-63" ntn is good. Just remember the string shouldn't be touching the bow once your half drawn or so. If the hooks are too big and the string touches them the whole draw, or most of it, you gain zero from the recurves. Short statics are key.
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: blackhawk on December 18, 2013, 05:30:14 pm
Short statics are key.

Fooey....malarky....hogwash...boo.....hiss...crap....bs.....  >:D  :laugh:  8)
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Don Case on December 18, 2013, 05:54:47 pm
Don't sugarcoat it Blackhawk, tell him straight >:D
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Pappy on December 20, 2013, 07:59:14 am
Don't think BH is known for sugar coating Don. ;) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 20, 2013, 08:07:39 am
What curves ?
They are way to strait 
Nice looking stuff !
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: mikekeswick on December 20, 2013, 08:36:43 am
Short statics are key.

Fooey....malarky....hogwash...boo.....hiss...crap....bs.....  >:D  :laugh:  8)

Big can o' worms that one..... ;)
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Badly Bent on December 20, 2013, 08:43:00 am
Anything you do with those staves and billets is gonna be nice I bet. Love the well seasoned stuff and those bits of character that are bound to be in those pieces of osage should make for some nice bows. Post some pics of the build along the way if your able, I'd like to see those come together.
Title: Re: osage design question
Post by: Gaur on December 20, 2013, 09:16:14 am
will do Badly Bent. 

thanks for the replies all.  Merry Christmas.

Randy