Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: kiltedcelt on November 23, 2013, 01:58:10 am
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Mods - feel free to move this if you don't think it fits with the forum.
I've been on Primitive Archer for a number of years, although I'll be honest in that I probably didn't look at the site more than a couple times over the last couple years. I got a little burned out on bows for a while there and living in an apartment I just didn't have a good place to really work on them. I kinda got away from archery and making bows for those two years while I pursued other things that kept me busy working with my hands (building bicycles in case you were wondering). I got to thinking recently how much I missed building bows and how much I missed going to the range to put arrows on paper. Also, I was granted the use of a disused storage room in my apartment building where I intend to build bows as long as the building manager will let me (after all, he did give me the key to padlock on the door :)
Anyway, I've been coming back to the site now for a couple months, lurking a bit, making a couple comments here and there, placing my votes for BOM, etc. Anyway, all the great pics, the advice the experienced folks dole out to the newbs and slightly less newbish guys like me, well it's been great to read all that stuff. I love seeing the bows, and it's like coming home, getting back on this forum. I recognize names and it's great seeing the bows still being cranked out by guys I was admiring two, three, four, five years ago when I first got into this whole bowyering thing.
I had a bit of a realization recently too. I decided I wanted to get back to making simple bows that didn't entail the use of lots of power tools and calculations and just so much soul-less "wood engineering." I put out a request for suggestions for retailers or members selling staves and where I should start looking. In less than 24 hours, two members local to me have already made the offer to help me out by giving me some staves from their own stock because in the words of one of these guys (paraphrasing a bit here), "other guys have done it for me." That's what I wanted to make this post about. Community. This place is a great source of information where we can all learn from each other and it just amazes me in this day and age where so many folks just ignore everyone else, where it's all "me, me, ME!" that a community such as this can still exist.
Gotta tell ya guys, I'm gettin' a lil choked up here ;) Seriously though, this site is fantastic and I always feel like I learn something every time I come here. What we're doing here - makin' bows, flint knappin', whatever - these are amazing skills that would fall to the wayside if it wasn't for everyone doin' and sharin'. Keep up the good work folks - keep on inspiring. I'm just happy to be part of such a great community.
Cheers,
Matt
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Aw, you're welcome skirt-boy! >:D
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>:D
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Just remember when the opportunity arises for you to pass it on yourself to someone else to do so 8) that's what keeps this a good thing going
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You got that right Blackhawk. Were I to have the resources I wouldn't hesitate to pass on some staves or offer to open up my place to a new bowyer looking to get started or learn a little hands-on from what I could pass on. Not to stray too far off topic, but I think a lot of it is just where I live. In this big city I find far more people interested in cool places to go an eat out or drink versus folks interested in getting OUT of the city and into the country. All the hunters and other sportsman types I've ever met were almost always a bit more "rural" a bit more down to earth. I find that those folks are the ones willing to help out others the most. There's a lot of "me first" in this giant city and it's kinda soul-crushing. My wife and I can't wait to get out of here (we're planning to move to Colorado). It's just good to see such a diverse community with so many folks who are so generous both in just contributing helpful criticism or advice here on the forums to actually stepping up when it comes time to help foster another person's interest by helping them with a donation of materials. I guess everyone realizes at some point, "hey I was in his place at one time," and they step up when necessary. I'm a diehard bicycle commuter and I see the same thing in my ranks. Those of us who put thousands of miles on our bikes each year don't hesitate to stop when we see another rider on the side of the road or bike path. It takes just a second to see if someone needs help. It's great that the traditional archery community is so much about sharing - sharing knowledge, sharing supplies, whatever. It's what keeps communities like this going and it's a breath of fresh air in this time of "me first" pretty much everywhere you look.
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Could'nt have said it better myself hawkey. Yah might think Im more crazy than you already do? But of all the osage Ive cut and split with my own hands, more has been given away than I have used. Almost all my osage bows are wood that I didnt cut. 1 in 6 might be from my hands.
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Way to go, Matt! Nice to see you are coming back to bows. That was nice of the manager. Jawge
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This is a fantastic site. It gives us old codgers a (not you PD) a chance to help people get started...people who are genuinely interested in becoming "bowyers".
I've had people come over and I've helped them make bows. So far they have made one bow, as far as I know, and that's it.
It is nice to see people take off with this avocation and then (like PD) they become the mentors.
You know what? I wish this site was around when I started. :)
Some advice: take advantage of it and do not be afraid to ask question.
Jawge
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Welcome back!
And I agree, it's a great community here! If these guys keep giving me free lessons, hopefully I will be able to give it back to a newbie someday too. Thanks folks!
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Selfishness is rampant every where not just the city !
This community is one of the best !!
It don't get any better than this !!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back !! ( even if you do don a wee skirt )
Guy
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Jawge,
I remember way back when I was first learning board bows, I read everything on your site and I even remember you lamenting that you wished I lived closer so you could just help me make a couple bows. I wish I could've taken you up on that, but I think I did fairly well with what I gleaned from your site a few years back. Now I'm ready to move on to making stave bows, so you'll have more than enough opportunity to give advice and help me along again when I start posting those first preliminary tillering shots. Oh yeah, and thank you personally for all you do to help everyone out on this forum. It's folks like you that I was talking about when I mentioned recognizing names and loving to see the bows those folks make.
Matt
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Building bikes and building bows goes hand in hand. Get yourself some bamboo and build a "real" bike.
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Some people are giving away free staves? :o
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Matt, you are certainly welcome. I am here for you.
That is a beauty of a ride. I love to bike. But the knees and back protest a little more each year. Jawge
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I agree this is a great community. Hard to find this quality of people any more.
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I think the exact same thing. This place is awesome, it is really a bunch of guys that just have fun scraping wood. They don't have any problem giving out info like most places do. I was just told to do an article in a primitive archery type magazine and the only place I could right it on the computer was at school (bonus points with the technology & English teachers!) and I seriously was trying not to kill the computer with my tears. Some of the guys I have worked with have been awesome and all done for free because somebody did it for them. I asked them how I could repay them cuz I owed them probably $500 and they said, pass it on. So I am going to ojam every year from now on and I will hand out staves and lend tools to kids and whoever else needs one, just to get people making bows. I am pretty sure I just signed my own ticket to 3 day slavery but it's all fun. I would rather hand out $100 staves to people for free and make my buddies happy than charge people $100 and keep my knowledge, all just because people did it for me
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Pass it on, everyone, so that those that come after us will have something to pass on. Jawge
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I am feeling that it is time to pass the mantle on. I just don't make as many bows as I used to make and I don't write as many articles as I used to write.
It is time for the young'uns.
Jawge
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Jawge,
Nothin' wrong with passin' the torch, just so long as you still offer advice and critiques. That's just as valuable as putting stuff up on a webpage or making your own bows and showing us how you did it. You can always offer advice.
Matt
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Glad to have you back Matt,hard to stay away long,I have seen many come and go ,as Jawge said,helped a lot of folks over the years making bows,some stay with it most don't ,but the few that do is well worth all the effort. :)
Pappy
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I feel the same way. I have been lurking around here for a good while. I have been building bows constantly since I first got to visit Twin Oaks in 2012. Thanks to a number of good folks on this site my bows are improving and I am now in a position to pass it on a bit too. I have a teenage son, he and his friends are developing an interest that I am honored to assist in.
One of these days I'll build up the nerve to post a bow. It's a bit humbling when you are surrounded by masters of the trade. In the meantime I hope to keep gathering knowlege from you all if you don't mind.
Mark B.