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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: KrisDelger on October 24, 2013, 04:19:39 pm

Title: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 24, 2013, 04:19:39 pm
Well since I've tried uploading this 3 times now lets hope the third time it the charm.
This is the first board bow I've managed to have not explode on my tillering tree (Yippy) realizing that all wood bows are a lot harder to make than fiberglass bows but hell it's an addictive process.
Alrighty so here goes: bow is 68" TtT and 66"NtN wood is red oak rubbed down with a 50/50 mix of dark walnut danish oil and shellac, backed with fiber glass sheet rock tape (I know I know booo) The tiller is a little bit wonky but it shoots sweet with zero handshock (This is the first bow I've ever shot off the knuckle) Unfortunately it took 3 1/2" of set during tillering but it's still plenty fast. It's currently pulling 49# at 28" which is 1 pound lower than my target weight. The string is a flemish twist D50 served with nylon.
Well guys let me know what you think, feel free to be harsh  :P
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 24, 2013, 04:38:56 pm
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Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 24, 2013, 04:48:29 pm
Your smoothness comes from the fades not moving creating a long riser effect. Your 3.5" of set comes from the same thing. You need to get the first 8-10" off the handle bending next time around. Keep at it!
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 24, 2013, 05:05:41 pm
Kind of figured it wasn't bending enough near the handle, the next one is already sitting on my bench waiting, I'm going to try and reflex the tips and thin out the fades more.
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Joec123able on October 24, 2013, 05:07:01 pm
Well not being harsh but Your outter limbs are a tad stiff and inner fades aren't working at all. Almost all of your bend is mid limb which is the obvious reason for the ton of string follow
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 24, 2013, 05:19:46 pm
Hey Kris I suggest reworking your bow. Truth be told? It wont last long as is. It would be great practice to get them fades working and the last 8-10" a bit more as Joe said. I don't want to tell you its no good as is, that's harsh. It just has a very limited shelf life you could say.
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 24, 2013, 05:28:53 pm
I was already thinking of working the fades down but I'm not quite sure yet. Will it drop more of the draw weight if I do?
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 24, 2013, 05:30:58 pm
It will lose weight, but keep in mind it will lose ALL its weight sooner than later.. ;)
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: koan on October 24, 2013, 05:33:00 pm
It will drop your wieght but you can shorten it abit to get some back(and your bow will live a longer life ;))... Brian
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Danzn Bar on October 24, 2013, 08:14:00 pm
Kris,
I agree with Pearl and Koan, My first three or four bows I did the same thing.  They came out with less draw weight, and I shortened some, used a couple for the kids to play with too.
DBar
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: paulsemp on October 24, 2013, 09:43:18 pm
if you can get red oak to bend like that without breaking you got a bright future ahead of you 8). I agree with others need to get more the limb working. have fun with number 2
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: VicNova on October 24, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
hey man great first bow! It took me a while before I actually started getting an eye for correct tiller. Keep at it and they will get better :)
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 25, 2013, 12:25:42 am
Yikes, that is a hingy bow. You need one of these for your  next bow.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=001047#000000
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 25, 2013, 12:46:27 am
I made a few of these tillering gizmo's actually the problem being I just re-did my whole shop and they were packed away somewhere. The next one will be better :P
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Pappy on October 25, 2013, 07:56:32 am
Agree with what the others said,get it bending more toward the fads and shorten to pick up some weight,I think it's Del that calls that a square tiller. ;)Laugh every time he says that. ;) :) :) These guy are so funny,they make my morning[square tiller and Yikes.]  ;D ;D  Not laughing at you/been there ,done that, so please don't take it wrong,it's just the things these guys say and the way they say it. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Parnell on October 25, 2013, 01:40:27 pm
Congratulations on the bow holding together!  I'll highly recommend seeing if you can hook up with someone around you that have tillered a few bows.  Nothing like real life experience to make your learning curve exponential.  I started similarly.  Made backed ipe bows.  Got some successes.  But, it wasn't 'til I found a mentor and got a stave that things really took off.

Good for you, enjoy the journey!

P.s.  I see you are in Nevada, you have Juniper around?  What kinds of trees you got growing out there?
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 25, 2013, 03:26:50 pm
Pretty much all I have growing out here that I could think of as bow wood would be juniper, but finding juniper that's even close to straight enough to make a bow out of is rather difficult due to the high winds we have in the area. I've tried finding other bowyers around my area and have had absolutely no luck other than meeting a guy who makes fiberglass bows a year ago and learning how to make them from him.
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: Traxx on October 25, 2013, 04:07:46 pm
Im in Reno.

Who is teaching you to make Laminated bows?

I got a couple of people started on Wood bows through the years around here,but they seem to have dropped out of archery.
I usually hang out at House of arrows on Saturdays,even though it has been more rare these days.Life has kept me busier these days.When the weather gets worse,ill be there more.
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: bubby on October 25, 2013, 04:18:56 pm
try and hook up with traxx, it will speed up the learning curve to get together with someone, and for that matter i'm a lot closer than vegas
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: KrisDelger on October 25, 2013, 07:26:43 pm
Awesome! Glad to know I'm not the only one breaking sticks in reno! Ill shoot a pm over to yah traxx.  Also bubble if that's an invite I'd love to come poach some trees from your neck of the woods! Haha joking of course I wouldn't dream of taking bow wood I'm not good enough to work yet
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: bubby on October 25, 2013, 07:34:10 pm
heck there's tons of trees in reno, in the park >:D
Title: Re: First Board bow
Post by: rover brewer on October 25, 2013, 08:10:28 pm
just want to say thanks to Eric, been wanting to make me a gizmo and can't remember where to find the info, isn't this a great site everyone here helping out thanks to all.