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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Archeress on October 21, 2013, 09:34:10 am
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Mods, please feel free to shift these if you think they should go somewhere else ay.
Now this is a BIG bow. Italian Alpine Yew. bigger than me.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/YEW%20BOW/yew1_zps17e87227.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/YEW%20BOW/yew1_zps17e87227.jpg.html)
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From humble girly beginnings..an obvious attempt to confuse my enemies.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/Abbey%20Festival%202013/kelly39_zps944af9d7.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/Abbey%20Festival%202013/kelly39_zps944af9d7.jpg.html)
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to my first forays into trad longbow...thats a 40 pound ash.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/Abbey%20Festival%202013/arrowgirl1_zps9824bc2a.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/Abbey%20Festival%202013/arrowgirl1_zps9824bc2a.jpg.html)
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My best blokey impression. i play a male archer in my group. might as well look the part. thats a 70 pound elm with a half inch bobtail war arrow..yeah i know its outta whack but it was a photoshoot for a newspaper. what the public dont know, the members of Primitive Archer forum wont reveal..will you all ?.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/Abbey%20Festival%202013/_BEC3845-COPY_zpsbd576bb5.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/Abbey%20Festival%202013/_BEC3845-COPY_zpsbd576bb5.jpg.html)
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Early days with fake medieval clothing..sorta like SCA ..lol... too much archery that night. Maybe a little more mead than usual.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/Abbey%20Festival%202013/arrowgirl26_zps4e8421f8.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/Abbey%20Festival%202013/arrowgirl26_zps4e8421f8.jpg.html)
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A familiar body on the right ?. me on the left.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/middle2_zpsfe71c1ee.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/middle2_zpsfe71c1ee.jpg.html)
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As you can see..my first Yew bow is very knobly.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/yew2_zpsc93c880e.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/yew2_zpsc93c880e.jpg.html)
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80 pound trilam.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/oldphoto1copycopy_zps1f640f45.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/oldphoto1copycopy_zps1f640f45.jpg.html)
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Moving up the draw weights
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/Abbey%20Festival%202013/IMG_0361copycopy_zps0b3f893d.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/Abbey%20Festival%202013/IMG_0361copycopy_zps0b3f893d.jpg.html)
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Now for something completely different. 5 weeks into my attempts at 127 pound yew..notice the very high draw arm and elbow?. simply because i have not been able to complete my rotation / crank whatever you want to call it therefore my arm is stilll on the way down. My technique needs tweaking in several areas and i have begun to address my shortcomings. No where near full draw yet. though i have put the bow down in the last few weeks and hit the gym in a big way. novemeber should see me haul it back further.. i hope.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/archeress64/9-20-2013_001_zpsa0e4b989.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/archeress64/media/9-20-2013_001_zpsa0e4b989.jpg.html)
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:) Sweet pictures. That is a sweet Steve Stratton bow too!
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Thankyou TMK. it is indeed. My next yew is a Ben perkins..he must be close to sending it out to me. 120 pound polletti stave Italian Yew. Cant wait.
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Cool pictures, keep them coming.
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Thankyou TMK. it is indeed. My next yew is a Ben perkins..he must be close to sending it out to me. 120 pound polletti stave Italian Yew. Cant wait.
And welcome to primitive archer!
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Thankyou Mr Mullet..sir.
Oh by the way..i make all my own arrows and one day will start my bow making career. one can only try.
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Embarass me with the sir, ::) Making a bow isn't as hard as you might think.
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Cool..thanks for sharing...;) if you think shooting elbs is fun try making one ;) I think I like making them more :) and its a fairly simple bow to make...just start out lighter in weight and learn how to tiller...then you can move up in weight once your skills and eye develop good tiller skills...you definetly don't want one of those high weight bows blowing on ya...ouch!!!! And welcome to pa :)
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Some great shots there Kel, I'll have to have a word with Steve if I get him to make me another bow though. I'm all for ye olde "crooked stick", but that one he sold you has got nipples! :o ;D
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Great pics... that lat one is prob' about where I am with my 100# Elm at the moment.
Del
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Cool pics Kel!
I'd recognise that red hat anywhere ;)
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Impressive I definetly couldn't draw it
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I could draw that! Gimme a pencil and paper and I'll draw it real quick.
LOL
Thanks for the cool post Archeress
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Hi
@Archeress
What is the drawweight of your knobly first Yew bow?
Kind regards
Andi
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hi there Andie...Well its a stratton bow and it will ultimately be 115 pound at 32. however it has started its life being 132 pound at 32 and has settled in at 127 pound..i assumed it would drop a bit lower but so far it is still milling around 125.. no matter..just means its a testament to the maker making a damn strong bow..got to love that yew.
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Hi
Oh! I thought it had less because you posted it before the 80# bow.
Kind regards
Andi
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Archeress - you are a beast! How hard was it to get up to that kind of draw weight? I've been thinking about doing it myself, but I'm primarily a victorian-style target longbow archer, and I just haven't got the nerve to go much heavier than 45 pounds since I use my bows in competition.
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hi there Atla'..well i didnt primarily start out to move on up the draw weights..i started with a 40 pound ash longbow..then realised i wanted something a bit stronger...70....then i thought maybe an 80 would be fun...used that for 2 years then as facebook allows i made so many warbowing friends..next thing you know i have a bowyer making me a 110 pounder....i got well and truly hooked and now its got real personal. Me against "the bow". its all about confidence..ego..my personal growth as im getting on in years. I just dont give up on things...when i have this 125 ish yew bow sorted and i am drawing it regular for a few months then i will look at 130 to 135 ish..i will keep going until my body says give it away girl..your nuts. ..so i have been shooting longbows for about 7 years.
i occasionally shoot 3daaa shoots here in australia and use a 70 pound elm longbow as my weapon of choice.
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hi there Atla'..well i didnt primarily start out to move on up the draw weights..i started with a 40 pound ash longbow..then realised i wanted something a bit stronger...70....then i thought maybe an 80 would be fun...used that for 2 years then as facebook allows i made so many warbowing friends..next thing you know i have a bowyer making me a 110 pounder....i got well and truly hooked and now its got real personal. Me against "the bow". its all about confidence..ego..my personal growth as im getting on in years. I just dont give up on things...when i have this 125 ish yew bow sorted and i am drawing it regular for a few months then i will look at 130 to 135 ish..i will keep going until my body says give it away girl..your nuts. ..so i have been shooting longbows for about 7 years.
i occasionally shoot 3daaa shoots here in australia and use a 70 pound elm longbow as my weapon of choice.
70 pounds for target shooting, that's crazy. Must be a pretty flat trajectory though. If you ever shoot a field or fita round, let me know how the 70 pound longbow treats you, I'd be really curious to find out.
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no definately not a flat trajectory..well not at 40 metres anyway. rather a medium arc. i shoot instinctively..i made a promise to learn this a few years ago..no sights, no weights, no marks..just simply looking at the target the whole time and i let my body do the rest. howver still in the learning phase so my accuracy is at 50 percent. wind shears, forest overhang etc manage to stuff me up at times. steadiness of bow arm..clean release..so many factors. but on the instinctive side of things..if all the other factors were a big fat zero then my bow arm seems to know what my eyes want.
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no definately not a flat trajectory..well not at 40 metres anyway. rather a medium arc. i shoot instinctively..i made a promise to learn this a few years ago..no sights, no weights, no marks..just simply looking at the target the whole time and i let my body do the rest. howver still in the learning phase so my accuracy is at 50 percent. wind shears, forest overhang etc manage to stuff me up at times. steadiness of bow arm..clean release..so many factors. but on the instinctive side of things..if all the other factors were a big fat zero then my bow arm seems to know what my eyes want.
I tried instinctive for a while, but can't recommend it. I don't use a sight or weight or marks either, but I pay attention to my sight picture and actively aim my shots. I find this improves my shooting tremendously. I was just 8 for 8 on a police silhouette target at 70 yards in a 15 mph crosswind this afternoon, using a simple longbow with wooden arrows. I could never have dreamed of shooting that accurately with an instinctive (not)aiming method. Of course, whether aiming carefully is possible with a very heavy bow is a question others are better placed to answer. I can certainly do it up to 60 pounds of draw, beyond that, I'm not so sure.
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Heres another way to get into my head.. My family history is english and welsh..i have had a fascination for medieval history since i was a kid. I am going to england in 2015 to take part in the 600th anniversary of agincourt as an archer. i live it an breathe it here. as far as warbowing is concerned i am over the moon just holding my bow. Arming it and drawing it back and loosing..i am still fascinated by this process..i feel the history in what i am doing. almost to the point of accuracy not even being in the equation.
For target though..my 70 pound elm has won me a couple of medieval comps here. hitting a half man size knight at 50 metres for example with one shot. for 3D shooting or ABA (australian bowhunting association) meets i am half as good as these crusty old men with there laminated recurves and shelf shooting...but i dont mind..i love the fun of it all. Its warbow i take seriously
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50 yards on a human torso is pretty good shooting. What do you think your effective range would be on man-sized silhouettes? (Use the military definition of effective range, which is the range at which you hit more than 50% of the time).
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Well i am about to find out on november 1oth when i can shoot clout to my hearts content. I do recall a few months ago shooting my 110 pounder at a target pig at 30 metres..prob 5 out of 10. this was at full draw behind the ear..looking at the target the whole time.
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That's super-interesting. Keep us posted on your clout round.
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I will make sure to video a few things also.
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I found a vid from august this year fooling around with my 110..i am uploading it to youtube as we speak. i will put it here when its done.
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http://youtu.be/ggnCS-XYSPM
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just mucking about. i have since changed a few things about technique..my feet are both now firmly anchored to the ground..my knees are bent and i am leaning over and forward a little. attacking mode.
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Is the brace height on a warbow supposed to be that low?
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hi..Brace height should be around 5 to 6 inches but i keep this at around 4 1/2. seems to suit it better. this particular bow is made from a lamination of greenheart/greenheart and bamboo. it recently has dropped to 105 but i have had it for a year now. It is a very thin bow so i called it "the whippet".