Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: criveraville on October 21, 2013, 02:40:46 am
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I have a question for folks familiar with sturgeon fishing regulations. When trading for sturgeon skins how can you be certain the skins you get were "legal" length limit wise?
Being from Texas I never would have worried about this, but I traded for sturgeon skins with someone in Oregon or Washington a few years back and was informed that the skins I had were in fact illegal a few weeks ago based on their length. I had no idea or even thought about asking the trader if they were legal.
Thanks,
Cipriano
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Beats me. It is illegal to fish for sturgeon in Florida.
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What are the length & limitations on sturgeon skins?Guess it might be kinda hard to tell once they're put on a bow.
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No clue never fished for them before. Always had plans though to go to the great lakes as i hear they get huge up there and put up one heck of a fight!
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I live by lake Erie and the sturgeon are making a comeback but it is illegal to fish for them and if you accidentilly catch one you are to return it to the water imediately.
Kevin
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It will be hard if not imposable in most cases to make sure they are at least of legal size. In Washington State we can not have Green Sturgeon (so no Green skins) and the Whites have to be measured from the tip of the nose to the fork in the tail. The min size is 38" and max is 54", so if a skin is longer than 54" it is not from a legal fish, and would have to be pretty small to be able to tell it wasn't legal on the small size. Hope this helps, Ed
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I live by lake Erie and the sturgeon are making a comeback but it is illegal to fish for them and if you accidentilly catch one you are to return it to the water imediately.
Kevin
Well there goes that idea :(. Oh well thanks for the tip kevin. Guess ill have to make future plans for the next fish on my list and that alligator gar in Louisiana. I lived there for about 6 months but never got around to fish for gar. Ive tasted them before and they are delicious.
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Here's the regulations surrounding Lake Sturgeon in Michigan (my home state):
http://www.eregulations.com/michigan/fishing/lake-sturgeon-regulations/ (http://www.eregulations.com/michigan/fishing/lake-sturgeon-regulations/)
Looks like all fishing for them in the big lakes isn't allowed, but there are quite a few other areas where it's okay. Check out those boundry waters! 60" minimum!
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sturgeon are a cool fish
but I wouldnt be caught dead in michigan with a set of skins no matter where they came from.
the mdnr would hang ya for sure
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In NY I believe it's illegal to take the mast turds outta the water. Supposed to cut your line
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I would say it would be hard to tell when the skins were harvested, and what was legal size at the time of harvest I'm not a big sturgeon fisherman but I see the regulations have changed quite a bit. Another thought was it hook and line or net caught, I recently acquired a skin from a commercial fisherman in Washington who said the commercial net regulations are different than line regs. Just my thoughts.
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Man don't life get complacated,same here in Tennessee on snake skins,I have been ask by game wardens where I got them,I just always say Texas, ;) :) :)never went any father with them, like making me prove it. ;) :)
Pappy
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Man don't life get complacated,same here in Tennessee on snake skins,I have been ask by game wardens where I got them,I just always say Texas, ;) :) :)never went any father with them, like making me prove it. ;) :)
Pappy
Sure does Pappy.. Crazy.. Yep.. I've sent tons of Texas skins to ya ;)
I got them too long ago and sent them for a bow I was getting in a trade. I sent pics and measurements of the skins to the person beforehand, but once the skins arrived I got a message saying from them saying the skins were "illegal" based on length and the trade was off. Bum deal and didn't make sense to me so I would like to get an idea on the particulars of the legality of it.
Cipriano
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Ya sounds like a bum deal,guess I live in a different world,maybe I should but just never worry about it much. :) I don't want Eagle feather on my arrows but other than that just don't give it much though,heck the warden's here probably don't know what a Sturgeon is. :o ;) :) the only time I have ever be ask about any of my gear/bows/arrows/fletching/heads was at a TTAS banquit and had some local wardens there.Had all my stuff on display and they saw it.Never been ask in the field,they just glance at my gear and usually ask if I really hunt with that stuff and then say cool,where are you License. ;) :) :)
Pappy
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yeah a couple a years ago I got into some pretty heated pm's with a guy on here that was a snake lover kept telling me you couldn't kill rattlers here and ended up pretty much calling me a liar even though I had the regs book and talked to the warden and biologist, and he wasn't from ca., don't even need a fishing license like ya do for other snakes
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Killing a snake and selling the skin are two different topics and have different rules in different states. Don't get caught selling road kill skins in OK. Mike
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OP'S
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With hundreds or thousands of New laws on the books each year.
It becomes ever increasingly difficult to get out of bed in the morning without breaking at least one of them...
And that's not taking into consideration Regulations, which are Not Laws at all, but can carry with them similar penalties and punishment.
Sometimes it seems as if I'm being pushed towards the darker nature bound up in the Pirate Blood inherited from my Forefathers and Mothers.
-gus
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Thanks for the replies ya'll. I was just bewildered by the revelation, but did not really see logical or rational manner in which a person could tell if skins were illegal or not with out even knowing which state or area they had come from.
Yes sir Gus. Gets crazy every years and hard to keep up and "ignorance of the law" is not a defense.
Cipriano