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Title: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 02:46:34 pm
I cut this out hunting down by a creek, leaves looked like maple, question is mountain maple or vine maple, i'm crappy on tree id, bub(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/ishi%20book/101_4373_zpsd66d0bf2.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/ishi%20book/101_4373_zpsd66d0bf2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bow101 on October 16, 2013, 02:49:44 pm
By looking at the bark Bub, maple yes, but need the leaves if any and/or the seed pods for proper id.

Here is the link for TRee ID hope this helps.......
http://www.nwplants.com/business/catalog/listscientificTindex.html
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Ed Brooks on October 16, 2013, 02:54:50 pm
Don't look like Vine Maple. Ed
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 03:01:40 pm
this was some smaller stuff, i'll see if I have any pics of the leaves in the first pic, I cut a pc for a walking stick from this , thanks for the link bow101, first pic was mountain maple(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/ishi%20book/101_4367_zps5f9e0ed1.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/ishi%20book/101_4367_zps5f9e0ed1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 16, 2013, 04:21:29 pm
Keep in mind Ive only seen pics, but I say vine maple by looking at the color of those trunks.
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on October 16, 2013, 04:26:54 pm
bark is completely identical to the moutain Maple I have cut... I mean identical
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: UserNameTaken on October 16, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
That's big-leaf maple. Not particularly great bow wood.
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Accipiter on October 16, 2013, 04:34:16 pm
UserNameTaken has this one right for sure, based on the leaves. Wood I've seen is very light-weight, does grow nice and straight though!
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 04:49:32 pm
the pic of the leaves was a different leave than the leaves on the trunks, i'll dry it and see what the heck I can get
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Don Case on October 16, 2013, 04:51:09 pm
Big leaf maple has(surprisingly) big leaves. 8" and larger.
Rocky Mtn Maple(Douglas maple) has 3-4" leaves that are the same shape as BL but have raggy edges.
Vine maple leaves are about the same size as Doug maple but they have more lobes.
Don
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 04:51:42 pm
for the size those trunks are fairly  heavy
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Don Case on October 16, 2013, 04:56:28 pm
Some links
Doug Maple http://www.nwplants.com/business/catalog/ace_gla.html
Vine maple http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/Atlas/Atlas.aspx?sciname=Acer%20circinatum
Big leaf http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/Atlas/Atlas.aspx?sciname=Acer%20macrophyllum
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Josh B on October 16, 2013, 04:56:54 pm
It looks like the mountain maple I cut in Or.  And no, I didn't ID it.  As most of you know, tree ID is not a strong suit for me.  I haven't tried it yet, so I'm not gonna be much help.  Josh
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Don Case on October 16, 2013, 04:58:09 pm
for the size those trunks are fairly  heavy
They hold lots of water
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 05:33:05 pm
thank's Don, from the three choices the leaves mostly resembled mountain maple, i'll make with these and see what I can get
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Bryce on October 16, 2013, 05:52:41 pm
That sir is big leaf maple......it's worthless :-\
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2013, 06:09:10 pm
well worthless of not its cut, heck if you can make a bow out of poplar ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Bryce on October 16, 2013, 06:16:49 pm
well worthless of not its cut, heck if you can make a bow out of poplar ::) :laugh:
Lol good point


Lumberize it. Good core material
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Josh B on October 16, 2013, 06:22:55 pm
That sir is big leaf maple......it's worthless :-\

Well..there you go Bub, straight from the guy that id'd my mountain maple.  Lol!  Josh
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Bryce on October 16, 2013, 07:34:08 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: rossfactor on October 16, 2013, 09:56:19 pm
I made a bow out of big leaf maple once.  It was huge :o And still didn't draw over 30#  :D :D

But the bark is some pretty dang cool stuff.  You can case-skin it and make sweet quivers from it.

Gabe
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: vinemaplebows on October 16, 2013, 10:28:59 pm
That's a strong statement Bryce, bigleaf maple in a pyramid flat bow makes a good bow.

VMB
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on October 16, 2013, 11:43:37 pm
not sure either way, but I have made a big leaf maple bow that was super over-stressed, chrysals everywhere, wrong design and it's still shooting.  I'm confident if I would have made it longer it would have made a fine bow, probably not top shelf, but maybe middle
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: bubby on October 17, 2013, 12:40:03 am
Good idea Gabe I might try that, vmb that would have been my style of choice, Bub
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: vinemaplebows on October 17, 2013, 01:34:50 am
Bubby,

                         68-72 long is what I would go for... ;)
Title: Re: west coast tree id
Post by: huisme on October 17, 2013, 01:58:27 am
+1 VMB.

It'll make a bow, just probably not your best. Keep looking and you'll fine another, better tree while you're working on this one and have a project to move on to when it's done.