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Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: bushboy on October 09, 2013, 03:40:48 pm

Title: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 09, 2013, 03:40:48 pm
Was talking to a compound guy the other day and he told me fast arrows were more apt to bounce off a fabric target butt.wondering what you guys think?
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: osage outlaw on October 09, 2013, 03:58:38 pm
Are the fast arrows also super light?

I watched a hunting show the other day where a guy shot a deer in the elbow/leg bone with a mechanical broadhead tipped carbon arrow probably going around 300 fps.  The arrow bounced off of the deer. 
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 09, 2013, 04:21:14 pm
There heavy 60grain,I respect the guy I was talking to ,he can put 3 in a pieplate at 1000yards with his rifle and 3 in tea cup at 70yards with his compound ,I've seen it for my own eyes!
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Bryce on October 09, 2013, 07:32:45 pm
He's right.
A light arrow has less penetrating power than a heavy slow arrow.
Think of it like this.
A VW beetle hits a brick wall at 70 mph. The beetle gets crushed.
The same beetle filled with lead anything to make it heavier. Will smash through the wall.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bubbles on October 09, 2013, 08:44:10 pm
60 grains or 600 grains?  60 grains would be some pretty light arrows.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 10, 2013, 09:02:29 am
Ment 600.lol.my newest bow is bouncing arrows like crazy,this is why I asked.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Bryce on October 10, 2013, 01:48:28 pm
Ment 600.lol.my newest bow is bouncing arrows like crazy,this is why I asked.

What's the draw weight of the bow?
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 10, 2013, 04:47:14 pm
65#@28"
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Bryce on October 10, 2013, 05:02:24 pm
In my opinion. You need heavier arrows my friend. At least 10grns. Per pound of draw weight.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 10, 2013, 05:08:20 pm
K,thx's will pick some up.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: crooketarrow on October 13, 2013, 10:51:02 am
  I seen my arrows bounce of the ground,rocks,tree's even the payment once. After they went throught the bucks.
  Even at 300 grains at 65#'s at sharp head wont' bonce off a deer. Might not get to good pentration but it won't bonce off.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: 4dog on October 21, 2013, 11:13:53 pm
i got a 63# osage bow,, it has yet to bounce an arrow off of anything ,cept concrete and it made a chip,, 20 yrds with a super light rivercane arrow doesnt bounce ,, arrow MIGHT have topped 100gns,,are you pullin it right????  lol
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Fred Arnold on October 22, 2013, 02:05:02 am
 ::) Something doesn't add up. A 600 grain arrow shot from a 65# bow shouldn't be bouncing off of anything.
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Bryce on October 22, 2013, 04:07:47 am
::) Something doesn't add up. A 600 grain arrow shot from a 65# bow shouldn't be bouncing off of anything.

I agree. Who knows whats going on here  ???
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: 4dog on October 22, 2013, 12:22:36 pm
the shadow knows    8)
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Fred Arnold on October 22, 2013, 01:14:29 pm
bushboy, what spine are your arrows? I've been around for quite a few years and tuning arrows to a bow is one of my specialties  ;D Only a few things could cause the results you are talking about and they include: #1 arrow spine completely out of whack, #2 arrow nock on the string completely out of kilter (too high or too low causing the arrow to bounce off the shelf or your hand and not allowing it to recover from paradox) #3 consistent bad form and bad release. At the moment that's all I can think of. Anyone else have an opinion other than that?
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: Pappy on October 23, 2013, 06:46:20 am
Sharpen or check out your points,you must be shooting blunts for them to bonce off with that set up. :-\ :-\  ;) :) Just kidding,I would have to see the set up to know but you for sure shouldn't be having that problem,something bad wrong here. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bushboy on October 27, 2013, 11:25:09 am
My target butt was shot ,the outter skin was deteriated beyoud repair,I rebagged it and problem solved!lol!basically I was shooting at a pile of towels and all the energy was being obsorded because the fabric could move when the arrow hit it!kinda dumb on my behalf not to figure this out sooner!lol!
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: 4dog on October 28, 2013, 08:20:29 pm
lol  its always something simple...outwitted by towels,, hows that make ya feel?    :laugh:
Title: Re: fast arrows?
Post by: bubbles on October 31, 2013, 01:02:20 am
Haha,  I've had the same problem on a foam target that basically had been shot so much it had a giant hole in the middle. Eventually the arrows have nothing to stick in to anymore