Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Carson (CMB) on October 08, 2013, 04:03:21 pm
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I just finished up a longbow of Oregon ash (Fraxinus latifolia), that draws 40# at 28" and is 70" nock to nock. My first attempt at sidenocks. This bow is just wood and a string, no frills. I know the tiller looks off in the braced photo, but there was some natural deflex in that upper limb.
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Looks great. Is there an advantage to side nocks?
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thats is a beatiful bow
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Looks good, that should be a sweet shooter.
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Thanks rps3. Regarding your questions about sidenocks, the way I understand it, sidenocks allow you to adjust the string alignment to a small degree, based on which side you choose to cut the nocks in. On this bow I cut both nocks on the same side, both on the offside of the arrow pass, which moves the string from center of the handle to closer to the arrow pass, giving a closer to center shot effect.
Thanks Bowman and Brad.
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Very smoth and sober. ;D I like this one.
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Carson, by now I dont think anyone can question your tillering job. They're always spot on.
That's another piece of art! Well done bud.
Is that your new target bow?
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Nice all day target shooter there ;)
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I like it! Side nocks are the way to go! The advantage is that you only have to cut half as many nocks. >:D Personally, I'm probably never going to use anything but side nocks. It's also easier to brace and un-brace. If one side of your string is getting worn by the nock you just flip the loop over. They're just all around better >:D Just my blatant opinion :D Well done dude, simplicity is where it's at!
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Nice bow Carson. I dig the side nocks.
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nice one carson
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Thanks Jodocus.
Thanks Bryce, I made the bow for a guy in New Hampshire. He is new to archery and wanted a comfortable weight. The sidenocks were inspired by the native bows of that part of the country.
Thanks Blackhawk, Jon, and Bub,
Tim, I am coming around to your thoughts on side nocks. I might be trying these again soon.
This was also the first time I trapped the back of the bow. I probably could have been more aggressive in the trapping, but it definitely got rid of some dead weight.
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Very cool! I do like em simple. Josh
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Nothing like a stick and string. Great job.
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Nice looking ash bow Carson. That raw colored ash looks good with that smooth finish on it, nice work.
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Nice, pure and simple ;) Really nice bow.
Thanks for the post.
Marco
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I like it Carson. The tiller looks fine to my eye. I think your guy is going to like this bow.
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This was also the first time I trapped the back of the bow. I probably could have been more aggressive in the trapping, but it definitely got rid of some dead weight.
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You can make the back half the width of the belly with ash for future reference. It doesn't half make a difference.
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Looks like a smooth draw bow with that profile Carson. I like your style, always that little extra touch making it better than average. He'll like it for sure. Did that come from our harvest?
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Very nice job,sweet looking bow. :)
Pappy
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nice job on that one Carson, nice and simple. any particular reason you trapped the back of the bow? just curious
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Nice clean bow. Shows that simple can still be classy.
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Thanks Guys.
DanK No, this one came from the banks of the mighty Willamette. It was a 3-4" sapling. Cut this spring.
Mike, I think I approached that figure with this bow. I probably could have "dished-out" the back where wood was removed for trapping. As it is now, it is basically a straight-lined trapezoid in cross-section.
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Sweet!love the profile!
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Thanks Guys.
DanK No, this one came from the banks of the mighty Willamette. It was a 3-4" sapling. Cut this spring.
Mike, I think I approached that figure with this bow. I probably could have "dished-out" the back where wood was removed for trapping. As it is now, it is basically a straight-lined trapezoid in cross-section.
I connect with several things about this nice looking bow. I grew up on the banks of the Willamette and used some Oregon ash for the paddles of a 27' sternwheeler I had on that river three times. Also, I have been a promoter of "trapping" the backs of wooden bows for a decade. Nice to see it catching on with a lot of people.
And then, I am very pleased when people realize that if the unstrung profile of a bow is not straight or an even curve, then the full draw profile should not be even. Under that condition, if the full draw profile is perfectly even, some wood is doing more work than other areas
Good job for the right reasons.
Jim Davis
PS: That looks like a locust your bow is leaning against?
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Jim, thanks for the very nice compliments. I am glad you could connect with this bow. Where abouts on the Willamette?
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Jim, thanks for the very nice compliments. I am glad you could connect with this bow. Where abouts on the Willamette?
Jim, thanks for the very nice compliments. I am glad you could connect with this bow. Where abouts on the Willamette?
About 5 miles south of Junction City, where I attended school. I was a farm kid and hunted and fished the sloughs and channels of the Willamette. Trapped coons, foxes and beaver--oh, and of course the mighty nutria. If the attachment works, here's photo of the boat that had the ash paddle boards.
Jim
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Man! Of all the bows I have looked at this week, this one is probably my favorite. I just love simple bows like this, it has a very "Sudbury Bow" look about it. Very native american looking, and that's the kind of stuff I like to see. I make a lot of simple NA bows myself.
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Very nicely done. Kinda looks like a Meare Heathe bow that's had a haircut!
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Those side nocks set it off! I'm not brave enough to try them yet...nice stick ;)
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Very nice, I'd not seen the side nocks before. I am a big fan. A really pretty, clean bow.
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Thanks guys. I am working on an osage bow right now with side nocks. It really gives you another option for adjusting string alignment.
asharrow, I was thinking about building my own driftboat and thought that would be a big project....now my dirftboat plans look pretty easy. That is a nice boat!
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Thanks guys. I am working on an osage bow right now with side nocks. It really gives you another option for adjusting string alignment.
asharrow, I was thinking about building my own driftboat and thought that would be a big project....now my dirftboat plans look pretty easy. That is a nice boat!
Actually, the sternwheeler hull was no more complicated than a drift boat--except where my ignorance made it so. I sold that boat for about what little I had in it for materials. Moved to Maine and decades later built...a DRIFT boat! Sold it when I moved to Kentucky.
Made bows in Maine and Kentucky, but not in Oregon.
Where are you in the valley?
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I grew up in Jefferson, a couple blocks from my grandparents place on the Santiam. Have a place now in Salem just a stone throw from the Willamette.
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Like that one. Nice and clean. Like the white, light beauty of ash. Nice tiller too. :-)
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Thanks Bowman!
And asharrow, yes, those are black locust trees in the background. My parents neighbors place. I am working on him, hoping he takes me up on a bow-making class.
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love the Lakota style knocks!