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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: doulosparachristos on October 03, 2013, 10:45:18 pm

Title: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: doulosparachristos on October 03, 2013, 10:45:18 pm
So here is my first English Longbow style creation; It's 71'' of Indian Rosewood backed with White Oak, a simple leather handle and buffalo horn tips. She is also pulling about #50@28, but  tillered to 31''. after a good round of shooting there is about 2'' of string follow ( I'm a string-follow-Nazi, so this is hard to accept) however, it goes to about an inch when rested. Until now I had never shot a ELB design, consequently, I'm totally hooked; It has a smooth draw, decent power, and pretty dang accurate. Brutal criticism accepted. Thanks

Roy
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: IdahoMatt on October 03, 2013, 11:00:35 pm
Very nice.  Great finish work.  I am yet to make one.  Looks like a blast...I really like how elegant the rosewood with the oak came out.  Very striking :)
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Badly Bent on October 03, 2013, 11:11:12 pm
I cannot criticize since I've never made and english longbow but I have seen them and I think that bow of yours is very nice. Great looking bow to me and the finish work is outstanding. Thats a bow to be proud of.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: bow101 on October 03, 2013, 11:15:00 pm
The wood combo looks great, nice job
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Adam on October 03, 2013, 11:21:20 pm
No criticism here.  You did a heck of a job on that one!
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: David_Daugherty on October 03, 2013, 11:28:28 pm
Very nice looking bow.  The two woods look great together.  Where do you get the buffalo horn for your tips?
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Cameroo on October 03, 2013, 11:29:08 pm
Looks real nice!  If I was to nitpick, I'd say the upper limb might be bending a bit much in the inner half (and I suspect that is where the majority of your set is occurring), and not enough in the outer 1/3, but over all, that's a damn fine weapon.  Those woods look really nice together, and as mentioned, your finishing work looks excellent.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: doulosparachristos on October 04, 2013, 12:07:30 am
Thanks for the compliments, guys. I also noticed that the upper limb looks like its bending a tad too much after I posted the full draw picture, I'm not sure how I missed it during tillering; I may start using the Paint program to check my tiller. The buffalo horn came from EchoArchery.com

Roy
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: adb on October 04, 2013, 01:36:57 am
I don't call a bow done until I have in the hand full draw pictures. Sometimes what you see on the tiller tree and what you see while drawing the bow by hand are not the same.

Nice bow, bye the way! I've never tried rose wood, but heard good things about it. What are your thoughts, having made one?
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: mikekeswick on October 04, 2013, 02:22:31 am
Elb's needed to be tillered more elliptically.
Just think - there is a lot of thickness taper going on with these sort of bows. So as the wood gets thinner it can and should be bending more. So just think more elliptically  ;)
As i'm tillering these sort of bows i'm looking for that first bit of set - this tells you straight away about the tiller - simply scrape/work where there is no set.
Aim for there to be none inner limb, a little midlimb and most in the outer limbs.
Beware rosewoods and wood yards.....the true rosewood is cocobolo. Many other woods are labelled rosewood too. I'm pretty sure yours isn't cocobolo, it looks like this stuff that is being made into furniture by 'fairtrade' companies. I've seen a few shops doing it over here, they buy this furntiture in from India where it's been made by workers getting paid peanuts and the wood is cheap as chips. Then sell it here for a price that we couldn't even buy the raw timber for. Fairtrade???
Anyway lovely bow - just work on the tiller of your next one and you should be able to keep set below 1 inch.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Pappy on October 04, 2013, 09:55:20 am
Now that is a beauty,really like the contrast of the wood. Nice work. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: BowEd on October 04, 2013, 10:05:42 am
That sure did shine up contrasting beautifully.A pleasant bow to shoot I'm sure.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: burn em up chuck on October 04, 2013, 11:10:37 am
   very very nice

        chuck
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: ErictheViking on October 04, 2013, 01:06:34 pm
Great finish work on an excellent ELB. good job man
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Post by: TimPotter on October 04, 2013, 01:41:16 pm
Absolutely perfect! Elegant and beautiful. I love it.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: paoliguy on October 04, 2013, 02:05:18 pm
I agree, that finish looks great! What kind of finish did you use?
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Bowman on October 04, 2013, 02:15:55 pm
Like that one. Nice "longbow-tiller" :-)
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: toomanyknots on October 04, 2013, 04:28:50 pm
I'd say the upper limb might be bending a bit much in the inner half (and I suspect that is where the majority of your set is occurring), and not enough in the outer 1/3,

I second that. I also think the outer limb on the bottom could work a bit more.... ...and now that brutal criticism is over, Nice bow! Beautiful wood! I wish I could afford a nice piece of rosewood, very pretty! Excellent leather work and finishing. Really though I think the tiller is not horrible or anything. The outer limbs are just a bit stiff. I have the opposite problem, I always wanna get the tips bending a tad too much, and have been trying to force myself to keep them a tad stiff until I nock them. lol 
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: Hrothgar on October 04, 2013, 08:21:53 pm
Fine looking bow, nice combination of woods!
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: doulosparachristos on October 04, 2013, 08:26:15 pm
Wow, thanks for the good information, guys; this sort of stuff is exactly what I needed to hear. The goal is to become much better with each new bow, so I greatly appreciate being pointed in the right direction. The finish is just shellack with and extra bit of furniture wax for a better shine. Well I think I might start a new one today and see if I cannot get this thing nailed down; I'm starting to think I have an addiction here!

Roy.
Title: Re: White Oak/ Indian Rosewood Longbow
Post by: smoke on October 04, 2013, 08:56:28 pm
I'm not particularly knowledgeable regarding ELB . . . but . . . WOW that is one good looking bow.  If it shoots well, I'd say you nailed it.  Very nicely done!!!