Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Fred Arnold on September 24, 2013, 11:12:59 am
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I recently read a post on here covering the use of rawhide backing and tips on how to apply it. I've searched recent posts in bows, the build along. and around the campfire sections and still can't find it. When I do a search I keep getting results from 2005-2008. Does anyone have a clue how to find a good related post?
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Try to do a google search with as many keywords you remember.
Usually works better than the forum search engine
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Here is my method Fred, take it for what its worth:
1. Wipe a nice coat of TBIII on the back and let it dry over night.
2. Take a sanding block to the rawhide until its thickness is to my liking, there is no rirght or wrong thickness.
3. Toss both strips in luke warm water for about 10-15 minutes. Pull one out and sandwich it lightly between towels to get most of the loose water off.
4. Wipe another coat of TBIII on the bow and lay the rawhide down.
5. Clamp the handle end of the strip so I can rub and smooth it off as I work towards the tips.
6. Once I get it smooth off I just keep "Petting" it for 10-15 minutes until the glues starts to grab.
7. Let it sit for 2-4 days depending on humidity.
8. Take a straight blade along each edge to get most of the glue and hide gone.
9. Finish the clean up with sanding block.
10. PRESTO!
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I KNEW IT!!! Pearlie "pets" his bows!!! Pearlie "pets his bows!! :o you scoundrel you!
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"Whatever it takes", that's my motto!
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I traded for a full deer rawhide and cut the desired 2 strips needed for an osage bow. It was fairly clean but needed some attention so I soaked and sanded the belly side with 80 grit wet/dry. Then I soaked again in room temperature water and dawn overnight to remove any excess oils and sanded again with a green scothbrite pad and then room temperature clean water rinse. It cleaned up nicely and is now drying between the legs :D of an old pair of denim jeans.
I'm getting ready to remove the tru-oil on the back of the bow and then use acetone to wipe it down.
Would you recommend TB III the best glue to use for this application?
You guys are hillarious ::) ::)
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I KNEW IT!!! Pearlie "pets" his bows!!! Pearlie "pets his bows!! :o you scoundrel you!
So what....I stroke my wood everyday >:D ...and dang proud of it ;D
Looks like your covered Fred...and yes I find tb to be the easiest glue to use and works just fine
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TMI Blackhawk TMI! ???
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TMI Blackhawk TMI! ???
What ya mean?..I'm not following? If my limbs are cold n dampish I like to rub them vigorously to create some friction heat to warm em up O:)
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this one's headed south real quick
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Better archive this one quick.
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Your just a man with his bow,, all alone ,, in the woods,,the cold , dark woods,, ::) lol Your a mess man.
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Try to do a google search with as many keywords you remember.
Usually works better than the forum search engine
Like he says, put in all the keywords, and then add "primitivearcher.com". Without the quotes. Google then searches this site way better than the stock search engine(which sucks)
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Your just a man with his bow,, all alone ,, in the woods,,the cold , dark woods,, ::) lol Your a mess man.
;D ;D ;D ;D Stop it... you're killin' me!! Stomach hurts!! Bah ha ha ha!
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OK... seriously. I do like Pearlie, except I don't put down a sizing layer of glue. I use TB3, soak the rawhide in luke warm water 'til it's pliable (half hour) , rough sand the bow's back, coat both with glue, lay it down, smooth it out from grip to tip, "petting" vigorously. ::) I use wax paper over this after it sets for a bit, and then lay a strip of leather over that and GENTLY wrap the whole mess with innertubes or an ace bandage. Leave overnight, unwrap, trim edges, sand sides... good to go. In my book, for rawhide, thinner is better.
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Fred,
This is how I do it. Not sur eif this was what you were searching for or not
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,32398.msg428391.html#msg428391 (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,32398.msg428391.html#msg428391)
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I do it about like Pearl,except the first coat of Tb3 over night,don't do that.I use
to wrap it in an ace bandage but don't do that anymore either. TB3 dries pretty quick and I find easier and less chance of air bubbles if I just stay with it till it dries. Patting lightly and a little rubbing :o ??? ;) :) On Osage I do wipe it down with acetone on Denatured alcohol .Usually don't bother with white wood unless I have used oil in heat straightening. :)
Pappy
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I do the same as Pearl and Pappy except I use a sharp file to cut the sides over the edge. I seem to do better with that than a sharp knife or razor. I was cutting into the wood with the knife.
DBar
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Pappy pets too???? :o :o :o ??? :-\
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I use hide glue, and iron it on without wetting it...................................... What does that say about me? ??? :o :-X
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I use hide glue, and iron it on without wetting it...................................... What does that say about me? ??? :o :-X
You do it differently! That's all it says to me. Ive heard of that method and Im sure it works dandy to.
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I use hide glue, and iron it on without wetting it...................................... What does that say about me? ??? :o :-X
I think that's how Torges does his rawhide. I believe I saw an article on his method once. Didn't make any sense to me, but to each his own. As long as the end result is the same, who's ta say?
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IF you decide to use the Ace bandage wrap, or any other fabric wrap, you may end up with fabric pattern embossed on the rawhide. To fix that, take the Ace bandages off right after the glue begins to set. Then wipe down the rawhide with a sopping wet cloth or sponge. Mop it real good to cause it to re-wet and plump back up. If using TBIII, the glue will reject the moisture from the re-wetting because it has already started down that path to being water resistant! (Man, I love that TBIII)
I ain't even contributing to the further southward migration of this thread. I am a reformed man!
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Well I finished the backing yesterday afternoon using TB III with no wrapping, only stroking and petting until I determined It was satisfactory. I retired to rest early and awoke at 3:30 this AM. All looked well so I trimmed the excess with my Bessie and used a fine double cut Nicholson, then 220 grit to smooth it all down. It looks good ;D. Looks like no air bubbles anyway. The only area that didn't hold down solid was the very bottom of the lower limb tip where I plan on adding tip overlays so I consider it a success. Next time I may use a rubber band right at the tip nocks.
I've plenty of rawhide remaining and am going to use the Dean Torges guide with hide glue on my next attempt which will likely be another of my osage staves. Although my next project is final tiller on a 57 1/2" ntn osage and backing it with sinew to try to get a safe 28" draw from it.
And since I haven't posted this one yet, here's a pic of a 64" NTN 45@28 take down osage that I'm just finishing.
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IF you decide to use the Ace bandage wrap, or any other fabric wrap, you may end up with fabric pattern embossed on the rawhide. To fix that, take the Ace bandages off right after the glue begins to set. Then wipe down the rawhide with a sopping wet cloth or sponge. Mop it real good to cause it to re-wet and plump back up. If using TBIII, the glue will reject the moisture from the re-wetting because it has already started down that path to being water resistant! (Man, I love that TBIII)
I ain't even contributing to the further southward migration of this thread. I am a reformed man!
That's why I put a piece of leather between the bandage or inner tube and the rawhide.
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You guys have all been a great help and I want to extend my thanks to all of you. Thumbs up to all of you.
And JW when did this reformation come about? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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You guys have all been a great help and I want to extend my thanks to all of you. Thumbs up to all of you.
And JW when did this reformation come about? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I was wondering the same! :laugh:
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Wheres the pics bro?? Be nice and post one for the boys' fantasy time,, "nudge,nudge,...wink,wink" ya know whatta mean ;)!
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You guys have all been a great help and I want to extend my thanks to all of you. Thumbs up to all of you.
And JW when did this reformation come about? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I was wondering the same! :laugh:
When I got to the post late and everyone else had already posted all the good one liners!
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Hey I got energetic today and did a little finish work inside the living area of my metal building and "home". What do you guys think? I even got some family photos hung. The passageway and window trim came from an old farm building that I tore down last year.
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Cool!!