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Title: All wood horse bow?
Post by: ionicmuffin on September 20, 2013, 11:53:27 pm
My school has a bunch of horses and i would like to make bows for them to use on horseback. I dont need to make super fancy stuff but i would be thinking about a recurve or syah bow tips and the bow being like 40-50 inches? what woods would you all recommend? should i use two(i.e. bamboo ipe ect?) just trying to get a sense of what im looking at for summers and material gathering. I have looked around for info and didnt find any easily available so i am guessing that you all have some good advice. Thanks for your help in advance
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: adb on September 20, 2013, 11:56:31 pm
The Japanese used yumis on horseback and they're like 7' long. Granted the bottom limb is much shorter, but you don't have to go really short to shoot a bow off a horse. If I was gonna do something like that, I'd make some 60" recurves.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 20, 2013, 11:57:29 pm
Why not just simple bendy-handle bows?
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: SLIMBOB on September 20, 2013, 11:59:31 pm
If it's me, I'm making little short plains indian bows.  Simple.  Osage if I got it, anything else if I don't.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: adb on September 21, 2013, 12:00:22 am
Why not just simple bendy-handle bows?

Good call.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 21, 2013, 12:08:18 am
Simple, short, bendy handled bows are the archer's answer for a woman's "little black dress".  Every archer should have one, they go everywhere, are simple, elegant, and classy.  If done well, they always turn heads and draw attention!
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: adb on September 21, 2013, 12:12:18 am
 ;D ;D ;D Little black dress... that's funny! But true...
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: ionicmuffin on September 21, 2013, 01:07:07 am
i could do short flatbows, ill do that and then if i can get a nice form and tack down heat bending then ill probably start making recurves
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: rockrush69 on September 21, 2013, 01:09:52 am
I know its a sin ... but i made a really nice pvc horse bow that was very short and shot reLlly well . Backyardbowyer onyutube shows how to do it.  But again ..... its not ....... but ! If useing them in school just to get passed around ... maybe you dont wanna spend to much time and mo ey on them . You could pump out like 30 in a few days . Paint em up to look nice ect.

 Just a thought
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: Jodocus on September 21, 2013, 08:44:48 am
Simple, short, bendy handled bows are the archer's answer for a woman's "little black dress".  Every archer should have one, they go everywhere, are simple, elegant, and classy.  If done well, they always turn heads and draw attention!

I fully agree  ;D
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: PatM on September 21, 2013, 09:47:40 am
Keep in mind the inevitable lawsuits as soon as one breaks and whacks someone on the head. Sometimes you have to think hard before doing a good deed in the world we live in today.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 21, 2013, 11:06:09 am
I wish I could tell you to ignore PatM's advice, but it is as sound and as valuable as a 90 lb gold ingot.   

Better check with the school and see if they would ok this.  It's one thing to make bows in the garage with your buddies, but once an organization is involved...especially one that has more than a dollar in a bank account, someone is looking to find a way to sue.  Everyone says they won't sue, but they all change their tune when they get that first splinter under a fingernail.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: 4dog on September 21, 2013, 11:14:18 am
Maybe the pvc bows werent such a bad idea..lol
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: rockrush69 on September 21, 2013, 11:29:19 am
That was my logic on the matter lol . Pvc just bends over when broke (unless heated to much in one spot and becomes brittle) for about thirty bucks and a heat gun or stove top you can make about 20 bows tht look like horse bows and are harde to explode and they really do shoot nice.  I have one and i actually hog hunted with it a year ago . (And missed :( ) anyways ... good luck bro . And etherway its cool you introducing archery to people . I feel its a dying aport everywhere but on here sometimes :)
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: Josh B on September 21, 2013, 11:37:18 am
It really sucks, but PatM is absolutely correct.  Everything you do these days, has to be done with more than a token of thought towards potential liability.  It has gotten well passed the point where a good will gesture towards your fellow man is simply appreciated and maybe some day reciprocated.  Nowadays ,if you do a little something for someone they get the idea that not only can you do more for them, but that they are entitled to everything you can ever do on their behalf.  If you don't voluntarily give it to them, they'll take it in court.  The point is, be careful at whatever you do.  It can and will be held against you!  This may sound bitter and cynical, but its just the way it is.  Josh
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: 4dog on September 21, 2013, 12:03:39 pm
No good deed goes unpunished!  :o
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: ionicmuffin on September 21, 2013, 12:38:43 pm
Thats the beauty of this school! we are completely disconnected from the school and everybody is responsible for the injury they inflict on themselves. On top of that the ideals here are about being nice to others at all times, besides that we (the college students) have foam sword fighting battles on occasion, boxing on occasion, and other dangerous things like outdoor trips that we sign release forms. The thing we could do is have everyone sign the release from so that i and the school are released from all responsibility. that and we wear helmets when riding so it would protect people, we could also have a policy that you must wear saftey glasses and if you choose not to then you do so with full responsibility of consequences. unlike public schools its not a big deal to have weapons. i can have swords, battle axes, bows, daggers, knives, ect ect. I can even carry a full 6" blade to class!
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: mikekeswick on September 21, 2013, 04:18:31 pm
A disclaimer means nothing to a good lawyer. Trust me on this one.
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: ionicmuffin on September 21, 2013, 04:33:35 pm
i guess thats true. im not super worried though because either way it would be under private activity and such, join of your own accord ect. if need be my dad can defend the people that are "responsible". he turns a lot of cases around because of his cool head and logical mind
Title: Re: All wood horse bow?
Post by: Josh B on September 21, 2013, 04:49:18 pm
It sounds like you are at a very good school.  I'll be looking for a school like that pretty soon.  My daughter wants to go to Hillsdale.  I really wish I could afford to send her there, but its just not possible.  I wish you luck , just remember to CYA!  Josh