Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: cdpbrewer on August 14, 2013, 10:34:13 am
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I’ve not found a any commercial nocking point pliers for setting brass nocking points on strings skinny strings and the ones I've tried for larger ones don't work so well so a cheap set of mini lineman’s pliers was attacked with files and sandpaper.
The back notch sets small nocking points, the front one does medium ones and the the pointy part between them is kinda tapered so it’ll spread open both sizes. The flat part up front is used to slightly crimp a point when initially installing it on a string.
4 strand Astroflight with a small nocking point and 6 strand Astroflight padded with 2 B-50 strands with a medium nocking point are shown in the pic.
If you try this, be sure to get cheap pliers- typically they have soft steel so they are easily hacked with files. A Dremel could be used but files worked better for me.
c.d.
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Dude... why are you putting those horrid modern brass nocking points on?
Del
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I was debating getting those brass thingys, I just use dental floss its cheap.
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Thread and super glue.
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art sinew and super glue.
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brass nocks arent any newer than the glues, finishes and string material being used today.
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brass nocks arent any newer than the glues, finishes and string material being used today.
While this may be true, they do not look modern the same way that brass nocks look - to my eye at least. They also make it harder on finger shooters (which I am not).
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brass nocks arent any newer than the glues, finishes and string material being used today.
I'm not even sure that's true ???
But they are heavier... and arguably uglier.
Would you rather have that mass in the arrow adding energy to the impact with the target, or as wasted mass on the string?
I can see no merit in a brass nock whatsoever.
Just my opinion of course...
Del
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If you use modern tools to make the bow, use modern finishes on it, modern strings you mine as well use a modern nock point just my opinion
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As long as there is a nock point on the string then more consistent shoot can be done.
WHO CARES WHAT THE NOCKING MATERIAL IS.
Use what you want. I use the little brass clips.
Thank you brewer for the DIY
-Pinecone
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OH Bryce...
Not on a yew bow do ya son? LOL
I don't have a problem with guys using them, I just don't like them myself.
I tie on my nock points with modern string material:)
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You betchyah!
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh544/bryceott/null-132.jpg)
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My nocking points are made of a super modern, and high tech, low mass material. Duct tape. :laugh:
Gabe
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My nocking points are made of a super modern, and high tech, low mass material. Duct tape. :laugh:
Gabe
+1.
what color? I use neon pink when I can.
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holy damn.....
someone posts something I consider useful and a debate starts on whether or not to use brass nock points.
thanks for posting c.d.
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I don't use em either, but I appreciate the tip in the spirit that it was offered. Thanks CD! Josh
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Now I have a quandary! Brass or bone knock points? ;D
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Now I have a quandary! Brass or bone knock points? ;D
OHHH NoOoO
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An Internet check tells me that brass came into use about 1200 BC. Do materials have to be older than this before they're considered trad enough?
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What about the rubber in side them. >:D ;) :) I don't use the either but good tip for those that do. :) I with Del,I think they are ugly and also they hurt my index finger. :) to tight to buy the also. :o ;) :)
Pappy
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An Internet check tells me that brass came into use about 1200 BC. Do materials have to be older than this before they're considered trad enough?
No one is try to be the trad police here.
I do appreciate the original post, the trouble taken to post it and the point that cheap pliers are soft steel which can be adapted to a multitude of purposes.
However if you really want an argument I'm happy to oblige.
There is no logic in your argument as the age of the material isn't the key factor.
It is the application of the material that matters.
Iron and stone are old materials, but would you consider balls of iron or lumps of stone fixed to the limb tips or tied to the string either a good idea or traditional?
I think the strength of this forum is that people are free to express varying opinions without being castigated for it. We all have different styles and preferences and should be free to express them (as long as it's not a love of fibreglass ;) )
As an example some people would be very much against the use of animal products like snake skins, they are free to voice this opinion while they accept that others will continue to use skins.
Del
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I use either brass or thread for nocking points. I have made a bunch of bows in the past and always tune each one to the max before it goes to the new owner. Lots of shooting, breaking in and adjusting the brace height and nocking point for optimum performance. Brass nocking points shine during this process because they can be repositioned so quickly.
I have an old set of nocking point pliers with at least 30 years of service behind them so it is unlikely I will need another pair. If I do I will take your neat idea to heart and make me a new set, I like making useful things.
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We each draw our own lines in the primitive sand. Jawge
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I do use them sometimes but I use a rock to beat on it till it is crimped tight on the string. This gives them a more primitive look and feel ;D ;D
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:) Thanks for the tip cd!
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We each draw our own lines in the primitive sand. Jawge
+1 ... (hopefully we draw'em with a stick ;) )
Del
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An Internet check tells me that brass came into use about 1200 BC. Do materials have to be older than this before they're considered trad enough?
No one is try to be the trad police here.
I do appreciate the original post, the trouble taken to post it and the point that cheap pliers are soft steel which can be adapted to a multitude of purposes.
However if you really want an argument I'm happy to oblige.
There is no logic in your argument as the age of the material isn't the key factor.
It is the application of the material that matters.
Iron and stone are old materials, but would you consider balls of iron or lumps of stone fixed to the limb tips or tied to the string either a good idea or traditional?
I think the strength of this forum is that people are free to express varying opinions without being castigated for it. We all have different styles and preferences and should be free to express them (as long as it's not a love of fibreglass ;) )
As an example some people would be very much against the use of animal products like snake skins, they are free to voice this opinion while they accept that others will continue to use skins.
Del
Well it is better to be castigated for your opinion than castrated though.
Grady
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I might start using them, but I'll back them with sinew:)
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Cool idea. I find getting the things off to move them harder than geting them on in the first place.
I have a cheapo pair of pliers made from shmetal n chocolate so they are a perfect candidate.
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Got a bag full of brassnocks when i bought an old hoyt gm some years ago.
I use them to finetune the nockingpoint.
If you crimp them on very lightly you can twist them up or down the serving like they are threaded and still stay when shooting.
After im done i change them for spectra fishingline tho.
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I just knock my arrow and shoot then wonder why I am so inconsistent. But at least I am consistently inconsistent.
Grady
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I just knock my arrow and shoot then wonder why I am so inconsistent. But at least I am consistently inconsistent.
Grady
+1
OneBow