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Title: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: tallpine on July 25, 2013, 02:20:04 pm
I have all ways used steam to straighten but on the bow that I am building now I used cooking oil and a heat gun to get every thing lined up. I intend to back it with rawhide. I am concerned  that the oil might interfere with getting a good glue bond. Any suggestions for prepping the back ? This is going to be a nice bow, I sure don't want to screw it up.> Dan
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2013, 02:34:44 pm
The back should be oil free? Oil only needs to be applied to heated surfaces. If you do have it on the back you can remove it by sanding it with 120 grit or so. The back getting scratched up wont hurt anything since your applying rawhide. Use Titebond III and nothing else, you'll be good.
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: osage outlaw on July 25, 2013, 02:36:42 pm
You could try Dawn dishwashing soap and very hot-boiling water.   I had a sinew backing come loose because of oil.  I don't use it anymore.  Dry heat works the same for me.
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: Joec123able on July 25, 2013, 02:39:21 pm
You could try Dawn dishwashing soap and very hot-boiling water.   I had a sinew backing come loose because of oil.  I don't use it anymore.  Dry heat works the same for me.



Make sure its Dawn dish soap we don't play cheap around here  8)
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: Gordon on July 25, 2013, 03:39:28 pm
I only apply dry heat to the belly when making alignment corrections.
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: SLIMBOB on July 25, 2013, 04:24:52 pm
+1 osage outlaw.  Quit using oil and just use dry heat on Osage.  Seems to work just as well without the clean up.
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: mikekeswick on July 25, 2013, 06:28:33 pm
A degreaser is what you want. Try acetone to make sure it's all gone. Remember that when heated wood becomes more porous so the oil is likely a good way in. don't apply your rawhide until certain the oil is gone.
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: JackCrafty on July 25, 2013, 06:58:34 pm
I've heard that wiping with acetone will degrease the surface.  Never used oil on any of my bows (to aid in straightening) so I haven't tried it.  Never used oil on any of my arrows either...
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: BowJunkie on July 25, 2013, 07:22:19 pm
1. Dry Heat or Steam for bows that will be backed or unbacked, prior to backing them.
2. "If" you prefer to use oil, use it on unbacked bows only. Doesn't matter if it gets on the back, because you will seel it anyway.
3. Don't use oil at all, Use heat or Steam.
It's really your preference and what works best for you  :)
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: tallpine on July 25, 2013, 08:35:20 pm
Yes Guys, bad planning on my part, I full intended to back this bow from the start, just wasn't thinking ahead. Glad to learn that oil is unnecessary for dry heat, should have done more research. I have always used steam but I'm sold on dry heat now, so much easer to set up a correction.  I have scrubbed it twice with Acetone and steel wool and I'm off to the store for some Dawn. Thanks for the guidance, I will post my results good or bad> Dan
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: Pappy on July 26, 2013, 06:56:20 am
I just wipe them down with acetone or denatured Alcohol and then sand lightly,  and use TB3 never had a problem,done one last weekend. I usually don't use oil on Osage unless I plan on a heavy bend like flipping the tips. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Heat straighting with oil question
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 26, 2013, 10:22:44 am
I use grease whe dry heating and I only heat the belly as Gordon said. Jawge