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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: lesken2011 on July 25, 2013, 09:38:04 am

Title: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: lesken2011 on July 25, 2013, 09:38:04 am
I was out looking at property the other day and saw a tree I was unfamiliar with. I wasn't sure if Hackberry is native to Mississippi or not, but thought one of you guys might help me ID it. I put a picture of the "berries" and the bark.
(http://www.huntingexchange.com/hwdphotos/uploads/62/4/rtm7rxczpj8h4u.jpg)
(http://www.huntingexchange.com/hwdphotos/uploads/62/4/4razji0xabscis.jpg)
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2013, 09:41:03 am
Not hackberry Bulldog.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: lesken2011 on July 25, 2013, 09:44:17 am
Mulberry, maybe??
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2013, 09:45:13 am
I don't think so? Mulberrys look a lot like rasberrys. Dimpled and such.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: oldhippy on July 25, 2013, 09:46:35 am
 pretty sure it's brandford pear
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2013, 09:52:40 am
I'll buy that for a dollar Steve! You guys down south grow a lot of tree's Ill never see up here.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Pappy on July 25, 2013, 09:53:45 am
Could be bradford pear,for sure ant Hackberry. :)
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: lesken2011 on July 25, 2013, 09:58:13 am
I don't think it is Bradford Pear. My neighborhood is full of them. You can't see it from the pick, but this tree is tall like an Oak. I'm not used to seeing berries on a big tree like this. I may call the owner to see if he knows what it is. If I find out, I will let you know.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: RidgeRunner on July 25, 2013, 09:58:40 am
Looks like some sort of Ornamental Crab Apple tree to me.

Get a close up photo of the fruit if you can.

David
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2013, 10:00:15 am
If it fruits, its has to be decent bow wood.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 25, 2013, 10:43:08 am
There are several varieties of ornamental pear, Bradford being one. The Bradfords are bad to split in the wind, the one in the picture is the hardier variety that won't split, don't know the name. I have a row of the same trees on the lot next to me.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: okie64 on July 25, 2013, 02:20:57 pm
Never seen that variety of pear but it does look a lot like bradford pear except for the bark. Id be interested to know how big the pears get? Ive seen a couple of so-called wild pear trees around here with fruit about the size of a golf ball when it matures. The best way to identify bradford pear is to stand next to the tree and fart, if it splits in half then its bradforf pear ;D
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Dalton Knapper on July 25, 2013, 03:11:26 pm
After a little research I believe I have found this tree. Not a Bradford Pear or other ornamental pear, but a Chinese Tallow Tree (Triadica Sebifera). The bark and leaf shape were a big factor in the ID and of course the fruit as well. It is considered an invasive species:

Have a look: http://www.texasinvasives.org/plant_database/detail.php?symbol=TRSE6 (http://www.texasinvasives.org/plant_database/detail.php?symbol=TRSE6)
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: 4dog on July 25, 2013, 03:30:24 pm
I guess there is one question left, is bow making wood.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: JW_Halverson on July 26, 2013, 12:13:06 am
I guess there is one question left, is bow making wood.

Ya got that right, 4dog.  But that is the implied question every time our eye scans anything slightly tree-like!
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Post by: Joec123able on July 26, 2013, 01:04:19 am
I guess there is one question left, is bow making wood.




There's one way to find out........
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Pat B on July 26, 2013, 10:28:15 am
I was thinking Chinese Tallow Tree too. They grew all around Savannah when I lived there.
  Where do you live? Tallow trees can't take too much cold....you can get tallow from the fruit. It was used in colonial times for candles.
 It is not a Bradford Pear.   
Eric, the bradford pears have weak structure(very steep limb angle) but the wood is strong like any other Pyrus(pears).
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: 4dog on July 27, 2013, 12:10:58 am
Ha!
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on July 27, 2013, 09:24:45 am
99% sure it's a Tallow Tree.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: Hillbilly on July 27, 2013, 09:44:23 am
I guess there is one question left, is bow making wood.
After a little research I believe I have found this tree. Not a Bradford Pear or other ornamental pear, but a Chinese Tallow Tree (Triadica Sebifera). The bark and leaf shape were a big factor in the ID and of course the fruit as well. It is considered an invasive species:

Have a look: http://www.texasinvasives.org/plant_database/detail.php?symbol=TRSE6 (http://www.texasinvasives.org/plant_database/detail.php?symbol=TRSE6)

You got it. Tallow tree is invasive throughout the deep south. I have no idea if it's good bow wood, but I'd kind of doubt it. It's fast-growing and likely brittle, light wood.
Title: Re: tree ID, please...Hackberry?
Post by: lesken2011 on July 30, 2013, 07:15:27 pm
Just FYI...I talked to the owner today and he confirmed it is Chinese Tallow or "popcorn tree". Apparently the berries open up to a white popcorn looking bloom thing. He sells wood for a living and said it is a soft wood. Thanks for all the responses.