Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: PEARL DRUMS on July 17, 2013, 02:34:35 pm
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Hey all,
I have a case skinned male yote that is perfect sized for a quiver. My question is should I split it and line it with leather, then sew it back up. Or can I leave it "cased" and sew up the bottom. Any and all insight is welcomed. Its a gorgeous hide and I would prefer to do it right for the animals sake.
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Pics of the pelt?? Just for ogling sake. 8)
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Nope! But I will post pics of a quiver when Im done.
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Pearlie, Patrick(Jackcrafty) has a great build along in the How To section but it was a few years back so you will have to look. I built one a few years ago too so you might look for that one too.
I cut the pelt apart and built the quiver and strap, some parts lined with leather(thin garmet leather). Patrick built his the way the NAs built theirs(tail first) but it seemed backwarcs to me so I built the one I did with the animal facing forward.
If you can find them in a search I can probably dig up pics for you.
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http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,11065.0.html
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Thanks Slinger. Thats the one I was talking about.
One secret to working with "hair on" hides is to do all your cutting from the flesh side(not te hair side) with a sharp razor or razor knife.
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Thanks Slinger. Thats the one I was talking about.
One secret to working with "hair on" hides is to do all your cutting from the flesh side(not te hair side) with a sharp razor or razor knife.
if you cut from hair side... even with a razor knife... on rabbit skin(untanned) it won't cut quickly at all.
I think coyote is pretty tough, thick, right?
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I'm anxiously awaiting the results.
ive got a coyote pelt that id like to turn into a quiver myself
Kevin
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Got a skunk hide waiting to be made into a quiver for my granddaughter, so Chris, GITer done with pictures!!
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I've got a bobcat quiver that was cased and it has a leather liner slid inside and stitched around the mouth, I shortened up the strap and made it a back quiver after I got a halfeye plains quiver and bow case
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Bub that was one style I had in mind. It seems a good way to protect the inside of the hide and it seems a good way to leave it whole. I have some pondering to do!
Thanks for all the tid bits fellers.
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Seriously, if you do have to cut the pelt do it from the inside(flesh side). It makes a neater cut and won't cut as much hair that will make you sneeze. ;)
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Pat I tan and cut all my own silencers. After a few cut from the wrong side you see why! Hair all over and not very "clean" looking when your done. Im quite sure this dude will stay intact.
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Check out Patricks build along that is posted in here Cherokee. Its pretty good.
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Thanks Pearly I will check it out. Did you end up splitting ur hide? Have you finished yours yet because I would love to check it out? Seems like you were in same situation.
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I haven't started! I don't intend on splitting it. Im going to do the same thing you did. Build a sleeve. I plan to add an internal stiffener that cant be seen. I used bamboo shaft on a quiver for Pat. It seemed to work nice.
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Ok cool. Will you just sew the strap through the hide around the stiffener?
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I haven though that far ahead yet. I will probably decide that when I get to that point. I wanted to have it done for the season, but was too busy with other fun stuff to get after it.
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Yeh I made the liner a year ago probably and still havent got around to completing the quiver. I will post it once Im done. Thanks again
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You can just turn the hide inside out, and sew a sleeve onto that, by sewing through the skin, or if it is thick enough, through the middle of the skin, without going through the other side, using a curved carpet needle, with fine nylon, or rayon thread. If you choose to sew through the hide, turn out the the hide, and sleeve, and if any hair was sewn down, just take a needle, and lift them up, and the stitches will be invisible. If you want to use the head part for a cover, you can trim around the head, and put a loop in the nose, and a antler, or bone button below it, to hold the head down over the arrows, as a cover flap. You can sew a green, or yellow ball, in each of the eye holes, to give it a live look. When you turn the hide inside out, you can sew up the tail section, if you want the tail section down, and put in a round, or square bottom piece in it. If on the other hand, you will use it head down, you can still use the tail, as a cover flap, with a loop sewn on the under side of the tail, and looped around the button, or you can just cut the tail off, and use it for a liner for the top opening, to keep the arrows from rattling. Depending on how long the tail is and the diameter of your top opening, you line the inside of the opening, at the top, and if there is any left over tail, you can split it, and either hang a strip on each side of the top, or bottom. Or you can sew it on the bottom, and let it hang down. You can remove the head, and do the same thing with thread ball eye balls, and sew it on the hide, just above the bottom, or just below the top, or use it for the cover flap, over the top to protect the arrows. Or, sew it to a pouch, and sew the pouch onto the middle of the quiver, to put in extra strings, flint and steel, small knife, extra arrow head, mojo bag, etc. ::) There are a multitude, Or "Plethora" ;) of options. You can turn the whole thing inside out, and decorate the inner flesh side, and have the hair on the inside, to help keep the arrows from rattling . I have a yote, and a fox hide, I have been debating on whether or not to make a hat, or quiver. When I get back up here in Montana,(I have one more load, and a cat to bring back out here), then I will start making more stuff, and getting back into leather work. I have a beaver skin, I got from LLoyd Beere, Hunter trapper's Dad, that I want to make into a trappers hat, for the Wife of a Friend of mine. Well good luck, andtake lots of pictures!
Wayne
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Great info Wayne, thank you sir.
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You are Welcome. Now get busy, and post pictures! ;) ;D 8)
Wayne
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Pearly, I just responded to another post about a fox quiver. Did you see my red fox quiver at Elm Hall? I didn't make it but it is really nice. I can post some pics for you tomorrow if you want. Maybe we can figure out how they did it.
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Ryan I don't remember seeing it? Im sure I did though. Yah, post some pics of it, Id love to see it.
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Well here you go. It is case skinned with a round rigid leather tube inside with a flat bottom. The bottom of the strap comes out of a hole in the hide where his junk was. The leather goes up and is stitched around his mouth area to make his face flat and more visible. The thing is beautiful. I wish I could say I made it but it was given to me.
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Nice quiver!!
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love the tail ..looks all shampooed anf purty!
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I've did this a 4 inch tube out of carpet smash it so it's oveled. Fits good into most mature yotes. I turned the skin inside out and glued in the smashed,ovel carpet tube to the inside.
Looked good enough that I traded it off and got a letter of thank you it looked so good.
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Not sure how this would work on fur and could use some feedback but I recently glued (hide glue) a piece of light weight leather to the inside of my leather quiver to repair a hole that the arrows wore through. It worked surprisingly well. The glue stiffened the leather to form a nice bowl in the bottom and I have not seen any noticeable wear since.