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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: ncpat on June 24, 2013, 04:02:29 pm

Title: Respect for Property
Post by: ncpat on June 24, 2013, 04:02:29 pm
I have recently collected a lot of goose feathers from around a church pond nearby. I have fished that pond for several years. It is a popular fishing spot. 

Last few times out, I have been disgusted by the amount of litter I find. Not just incidental small stuff like bottle caps. Water bottles, soda cans, bait containers, candy/gum wrappers, etc. Found a broken fishing rod today that someone just left there. I cleaned up all I found & brought the fishing rod home to fix up. Still very usable, just a broken tip. I have found several wads of monofilament fishing line, laying on the bank & strings of it snagged in nearby shrubs. Someone could have cut the bulk of it loose in 1-2 minutes and not left a hazard & eyesore.

Let's all remember to respect the property of those who let us use it. How long does it take to clean up our trash? I will not be surprised if the church gets angry and forbids further public use of their pond. I have known other property owners to close their ponds & woods to fishing and hunting for similar reasons. Sometimes we have only ourselves to blame, or our sloppy bretheren. 
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on June 24, 2013, 05:01:47 pm
Truth
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Fred Arnold on June 24, 2013, 05:21:27 pm
 :embarassed: yeah, I know where you're coming from. I live on a small acreage 3 1/2 miles from the nearest town (population 261) off a county maintained gravel road. This is a rural area and the road is used mostly by the locals and a handful of joyriders (beer cans, plastic beverage bottles, and a few fast food bags)  You wouldn't believe the trash thrown out of car and truck windows that litter the ditches. I hop on the bike with a box on the carrier and a couple plastic bags and clean up the mile stretch from my driveway entrance. You would think people would know better and have a little more respect for their environment.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Gus on June 24, 2013, 05:31:19 pm
Yes Sir,

Just ONE Facet of my thinking on this Sore Note is:

Leave it better than you fond it and maybe they'll have you back.

-gus
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Dharma on June 24, 2013, 05:51:10 pm
Kinda makes ya wonder what these folks' houses look like.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 24, 2013, 06:37:39 pm
The place where I sling is a popular shortcut, and hiking place(well, used to be hiking place).
I check the trails each time I sling.
Now when I go up there, I have to avoid broken glass(everywhere), beer bottles, general trash, broken concrete... people just dump stuff.
Its rather irratating. Plus its diffucult to take the shortcut to "town" now on a bike, cause there is so much trash.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: bhenders on June 24, 2013, 07:23:53 pm
I'm afraid you're all fighting a losing battle.  We've become the ultimate throw-away society, but keep trying...
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: ncpat on June 24, 2013, 07:52:58 pm
I'm afraid you're all fighting a losing battle.  We've become the ultimate throw-away society, but keep trying...

This goes beyond the throwaway issues. One can throw away a lot of stuff but use trash cans & dumpsters without leaving trash laying around the pond.   
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Newindian on June 24, 2013, 08:53:33 pm
I once did a rough count of the beer cans/bottles along a 60 yard stretch of river diverted number was in the hundreds, and that's just the ones I can see. ( probably 90% Miller )
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 24, 2013, 11:31:31 pm
I used to have to cross a street in a certian city near my house during school(2 different buildings cause of construction)...
counted around 300 cig butts in about a 200' strech of road.  Quite insane if you ask me.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: YosemiteBen on June 26, 2013, 01:32:20 pm
Welcome to Yosemite National Park and Trash Can

TP flowers abound as well as fast food bags, diapers, cigarette butts and lots of other just plain nasty stuff!
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: blackhawk on June 26, 2013, 01:56:19 pm
Littering is a HUGE pet peeve of mine...one time a buddy was riding in my car with me and he threw out a coca cola can....I hit my brakes and stopped....told him to get out and go pick it up,and no I wasn't gonna throw it in reverse n back up to it...I made him walk the couple hundred yards back to go get it...I told him I wasn't moving my car until he did  >:D... and he did...funny thing is a few years later I ended up buying a house on that road where I currently live  ;D... FYI ...DONT ever litter in front of me...I'll go ape $%&@ on ya... :laugh:  I could rant for a good while on this but I'll stop there ;)
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Joec123able on June 26, 2013, 02:05:26 pm
Yea I hear ya we have a lake called lake manawa here and it is just trashed I don't even go there anymore
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: NimRand on June 27, 2013, 07:35:16 am
Must be the same Lake Manawa I know. I have never been there but my Son and his friends have concurred what you said.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: crooketarrow on June 27, 2013, 08:45:47 am
  I fish alot in the summers and do the same everyyear. I also pick up lots of geese feathers.
  Nothing worse than fishing line on geese and ducks. I've even caught muskrats and turtles with scares from line. And once as a kid found a otter floating dead in a pond with line around his neck a front legs.
  Not to many days back I picked up a ball of line that streached 50 feet down the bank.
   VERY SAD
 
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Joec123able on June 27, 2013, 09:19:22 am
Must be the same Lake Manawa I know. I have never been there but my Son and his friends have concurred what you said.


In council bluffs Iowa ? Wow we live really close
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: JessaHein on June 27, 2013, 09:21:51 am
Ooohuhuhu... I hate seeing stuff like this. I've noticed that there isn't a whole lot of garbage laying around most places here in (more rural) Finland, mostly because recyclables have a pant when they are returned to stores for recycling and most paper waste is used for burning in saunas and central heating, but what I do see so much more of is graffiti. And it's like.. even prehistoric cave paintings aren't even safe, people destroy those with graffiti too, easily most of the younger generations because the older ones have respect for nature. I admit, I can simmer low with garbage laying around, just pick it up and have my grumble about it. But seeing stuff vandalized and graffiti'd, I'll go full blown EDP if I see that happening.

"This is why we can't have nice things." It only takes a few dummies to ruin it for the rest of us. :\
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: NimRand on June 28, 2013, 07:22:26 am
I live in Bellevue.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Joec123able on June 28, 2013, 04:13:14 pm
I live in Bellevue.


Wow thats crazy we live very close I used to live over there
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 28, 2013, 09:07:57 pm
I was in a hunting club with some top of the line guys, professionals, ministers and such, almost everyone of them littered up the club property. I finally got fed up with picking up after them and gave them all a good talking to about defacing the club land with their thoughtlessness at the next club business meeting.

They had all been pitching out thrash for so long it seemed normal to them.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: vinemaplebows on June 29, 2013, 10:50:35 pm
Ironic, the very same people that should care about the outdoors and how they are maintained with trash it, it is quite common here! I remember when I was a kid growing up on saturday/sunday morning cartoons.....they every weekend had a spot for (as I recall it) how would you like to live in a nasty iccky world like this ....showing garbage in the water, and land. I have never forgot those simple cartoons, and they will stay with me for life! If I catch ya. you will be reported!

Remember this?   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM
VMB
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: ncpat on June 30, 2013, 01:36:04 am
Ironic, the very same people that should care about the outdoors and how they are maintained with trash it, it is quite common here! I remember when I was a kid growing up on saturday/sunday morning cartoons.....they every weekend had a spot for (as I recall it) how would you like to live in a nasty iccky world like this ....showing garbage in the water, and land. I have never forgot those simple cartoons, and they will stay with me for life! If I catch ya. you will be reported!

Remember this?   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM
VMB

Yes, I remember that commercial well.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: ncpat on June 30, 2013, 01:42:52 am
  I fish alot in the summers and do the same everyyear. I also pick up lots of geese feathers.
  Nothing worse than fishing line on geese and ducks. I've even caught muskrats and turtles with scares from line. And once as a kid found a otter floating dead in a pond with line around his neck a front legs.
  Not to many days back I picked up a ball of line that streached 50 feet down the bank.
   VERY SAD
 

Yes, bad enough if you snag a line on something out in the water, can't get to it and have to cut it. Outrageous for someone to just leave line laying around when a minute or 2 is all it takes to cut it loose & ball it up to trash it later.
Title: Re: Respect for Property
Post by: Gus on July 05, 2013, 05:02:02 pm
I remember the Indian Tears PSA's from the 70's...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OHG7tHrNM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GZMH5PXIwgM

-gus