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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: PebblePlacement on May 26, 2013, 06:55:17 pm

Title: Clear Finish
Post by: PebblePlacement on May 26, 2013, 06:55:17 pm
What would be best for a clear finish on my laminated longbow?

I would like a thick "plastic" coating for protection and strength...  Will any product increase draw weight?

Two-Part Epoxy? (pros, cons)
Varathane?  (pros, cons)

What do the professionals use?
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: richardzane on May 26, 2013, 07:31:07 pm
everybody has their favorites here , but it does seem true-oil is choice for many.
I've experimented with boiled linseed oil, Danish oil, and even teakwood oil but in my limited experience I have to say True oil "stays" the best.
the others may be fine for penetrating wood fiber, but they surface dull in time.
I've even heat gunned a persimmon bow treated with true-oil that took too much set, to reflex it,  and it did not blister.
 spar-varnish blisters on arrows when you try to re-straighten with heat.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: PebblePlacement on May 26, 2013, 08:12:39 pm
Does oil decrease limb resistance?
Does oil effect adhesives?

What do people use to make the thick plasticy coating like i have seen on custom bows?
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: Joec123able on May 26, 2013, 09:05:13 pm
There's no way any finish is gonna raise your draw weight any substantial amount and I think the thick plastic coating your describing is achieved through many many coats of finish but I don't know what kind "professionals" use
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: Weylin on May 26, 2013, 11:07:43 pm
This bow was finished with multiple coats of tru-oil. Is this the type of finish that you're looking for?
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/olivewn/IMG_1271.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/olivewn/media/IMG_1271.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: PatM on May 27, 2013, 12:53:16 am
 Something like this. http://tbirdarchery.com/Application.htm
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: PebblePlacement on May 27, 2013, 07:54:01 am
The TBird is a little out of my range right now PatM (and I don't think my bows are at that level yet :))
Beautiful finish Weylin!
Do you just wipe on the Tru-oil?  How often do you re-do it?  Does it protect from scuffs and dings?  Cost?



Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: PatM on May 27, 2013, 09:11:09 am
Tru oil is great but likely not what you are looking for. Try the Massey finish technique if you want a thicker plastic coating on a budget.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: richardzane on May 27, 2013, 11:57:11 am
actually bought true oil yesterday at an Academy Sports+Outdoors .  $6 for a 3oz. bottle which
is a good amount to experiment with on 4 or 5 bows.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: Weylin on May 27, 2013, 02:55:40 pm
When you're finished with that bottle you should shop around online. You can find an 8 oz. bottle for a more reasonable price per oz.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: ionicmuffin on May 27, 2013, 02:57:56 pm
actually you can get a 32 oz bottle for around 10 chachings.  >:D i was shocked and outraged that i payed nearly 12 chachings for 6 oz and barely got more than 3 or 4 bows out of them... go online and do some searches.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: Weylin on May 27, 2013, 03:00:55 pm
With 32 oz. you're going to run into the problem of having your tru-oil dry up and get gummy before you get to the end of it. Unless you're making 12 bows a month or something.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: Gordon on May 27, 2013, 04:05:29 pm
If you want a finish like the professionals use, then you need to go with a catalyzed finish like Thunderbird or Fullerplast. The drawbacks are these finishes are expensive to purchase, produce toxic fumes, require spray equipment to properly apply and are a bear to repair. If you are making a lot of bows, then it makes sense to go this route otherwise stick to a finish you can apply by hand like Tru-oil, shellac, or poly. I've never tried the Massy finish so I can't comment on that, but if you go that way wear a ventilator mask and gloves while preparing and applying.
Title: Re: Clear Finish
Post by: PebblePlacement on May 27, 2013, 10:11:24 pm
Great information everybody!!  Thank you all so much.
I think I am going to try the Massey Finish.