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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: KHalverson on May 24, 2013, 03:29:57 pm

Title: tomahawk
Post by: KHalverson on May 24, 2013, 03:29:57 pm
hammer poll hawk forged from a high carbon (4140) railroad spike
brine quenched and given a oil blackening
head is 7 1/4 long with a 1 7/8 cutting edge
straight grain ash handle
thanks for looking
Kevin
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Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: RidgeRunner on May 24, 2013, 03:39:55 pm
NICE.  Real Nice.
Got a pile of R/R spikes myself.
Would make one myself but first I have to convince myself that I can. ::)

David
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Stoker on May 24, 2013, 03:58:02 pm
Nicely done.. 8)
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Frawg on May 24, 2013, 04:41:11 pm
That sir is very nice
Matt
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: wildman on May 24, 2013, 05:16:32 pm
slick!
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: osage outlaw on May 24, 2013, 11:32:44 pm
I got to see one of your hawks at the Classic.  They are top notch.  You do some fine work sir.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on May 24, 2013, 11:48:20 pm
Nice work.  It's good to see something other than a spike hawk from a rr spike
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: stickbender on May 25, 2013, 01:28:04 am

     Very nice! 8)  But wouldn't the hammer poll be more useful, if it was straight
out and not curved?  I have a pile of spikes, that I want to do something like this with, when I am permanently out west.  Thanks for sharing.

                                               Wayne
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: burn em up chuck on May 25, 2013, 07:38:18 am
    very very cool, much better use than me using them as fishing weights.(sturgeon fishing)
  seriously though nice design. I like the hammer part, the blade, very nice.
    question; how does it feel in the hand, the balance? wish I had seen one of your hawks at the classic.  :(
 

                                                 
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: mullet on May 25, 2013, 07:46:39 am
I saw the same hawk at the classic that Clint did, it was a beauty.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: CherokeeKC on May 25, 2013, 09:12:05 am
Nice hawk.  I have several spikes also I would like to try this with eventually.  How did you punch/form the handle hole?
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Trapper Rob on May 25, 2013, 11:10:55 am
That is one fine looking hawk.
Rob
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on May 25, 2013, 01:20:12 pm
How does one go about getting railroad spikes? Nice job!
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on May 25, 2013, 01:33:51 pm
How does one go about getting railroad spikes? Nice job!
very old, abandoned train tracks with permission from the owner.  Rail companies are prickly about trespassing and "theft".
IIRC, old shipyards used high(ish) carbon spikes in their rails, but I might be remembering wrong.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: vinemaplebows on May 26, 2013, 02:41:03 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on May 27, 2013, 05:35:26 pm
that's nice i have been wanting to give that a try for a while. but don't no were  to start on making a forge.  whats your set up? Ive been watching a lot of you tube videos on how to make tomahawks. looks like fun
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 27, 2013, 08:05:55 pm
I have the same hawk. Its a mean machine and holds an edge for a good while. Another sweet piece of work from Kevins garage!
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on May 29, 2013, 02:53:21 pm
Well... Anyone willing to trade? slings and locust are about it.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: mullet on May 29, 2013, 03:54:23 pm
Too late :D It's on the way to me. ;)
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on May 30, 2013, 12:09:40 am

No, for railroad spikes.
I would happily trade some wood or something.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: KHalverson on May 30, 2013, 08:15:23 pm
slinger
pm me your addy
ill send ya a few.
they wont be pristine new spikes  but good used hc spikes to forge into good usable tools
Kevin
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: RyanY on May 30, 2013, 10:07:25 pm
Very cool. Is the handle fire hardened at all? I think I remember watching a video somewhere about a guy who preferred his tool handles to be heat treated in some fashion.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: KHalverson on June 02, 2013, 01:54:08 pm
Very cool. Is the handle fire hardened at all? I think I remember watching a video somewhere about a guy who preferred his tool handles to be heat treated in some fashion.

nope.
just the barber pole stripe burned around them.
Kevin
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: longbow man on June 11, 2013, 05:57:59 pm
Nice job of forging. Whats the carbon content of railroad spikes? Brine quench produces a very hard edge so I assume you tempered it as well. Have yet to make my own but will probably use mild steel with a high carbon (file) inserted piece for the edge. COOL.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: KHalverson on June 11, 2013, 10:48:14 pm
thanks
from what im told the hc spikes are 4130 -4140
so .03-.04 carbon pretty low
i only brine quench about 2 in back from the edge and then go to oil
they are tough but not real hard
im estimating 48-50 rc ish
Kevin
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: BowEd on June 27, 2013, 09:57:02 pm
Nice work KHalverson.I own one of Joe Dilaronds hawks myself.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: JW_Halverson on June 27, 2013, 10:18:50 pm
Nice work KHalverson.I own one of Joe Dilaronds hawks myself.

LOL, Ol' Joe De LaRonde is still running around making stuff.  He was about fit to be tied a few years ago when one of his hawks was sold on Ebay, along with provenance and documentation, PROVING it was an original from the French and Indian War.  The guy got close to $2,000 for it and Joe was only charging about a hunnerd and a quarter for 'em new.  Joe, himself, will admit he's no spring chicken, but he refuses to confess he was blacksmithing in the 1700's!!!

Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: BowEd on June 28, 2013, 09:22:55 am
Good for Joe.
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: cracker on June 28, 2013, 12:16:35 pm
 8) 8)
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: KHalverson on June 29, 2013, 08:37:31 am
ive got Joe DeLeRondes book on blacksmithing basics for the homestead
what a good read .
very well written and illustrated.
has really helped me a lot
Kevin
Title: Re: tomahawk
Post by: BowSlayer on July 04, 2013, 05:59:15 am
Very nice.  Be proud sir.