Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: BowEd on May 22, 2013, 07:23:40 am
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Here it is.
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Ver nice. :)
Pappy
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That's awesome!
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looks great! been thinking of building one myself.
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Sweet! Are you doing a buildalong?
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Make one yourself?.....A build-a-long?.....I'll answer both questions with one answer.Even though the native american built these with regullarity there are far too many measurements IMO to be making this and showing it.It's best to get your first from a dealer who gets the measurements exact for a tight fit which helps it withstand 50 mph winds.You better give it a tremendous amount of thought before getting material to make these.Otherwise you are just wasting your time & money.
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Cool ! I like the Willow Backrests - thanks for posting all the pics, really enjoyed them. Bob
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A little thing about setting up a teepee.When all the poles are in place and you begin to wrap the apex together,you wrap it 4 times around as the 4 winds & the sun turns while chanting Hi ya Hi ya Hi ya Hi ya.....LOL.There's a bunch of teepee etiquette that goes with owning one if a person wants to find out.You enter a teepee and go to your heart side to the left and never never walk in front of someone....LOL.Ceremonies done in them of which I've only been to one the pipe is never passed accross the door way to the other side.Always passed back the way it came to the place of honor at the mantle of sod taken out for the pit where the pipe owner sits.He fills it up again or relites it to pass around again.
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One rendezvous story here...When dates are set for events mother nature does not see a calendar.Forecasts for bad weather never stopped me from going owning a teepee.At one rendezvous[The Cherrokee Ridge Runners] locally which I was a member of,a terrific storm [high winds & hard rain] came through about midnight.By 2:00AM I heard scratching on my door.My neighbors wall tent and A frame tent had gotten people wet[plus all of there bed wear].The next morning both tents were hung in the lower branches of trees.So though it is a little easier to set up wall & A frames,occasionally they are more work in the end.A teepee like this can be set up moved into in under an hour.
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jealous, I've been wanted one of these for a while, which dealer did you get it from? and I never thought of taking one camping! oh my what fun that would be ;D
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I don't own one but i've spent some fireside time in one during a small snow storm. Very impressed, very warm, didn't want to leave.
very cool.
chuck
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Matt B......The business's called Panther Primitive & RK Lodges come to mind.Mine was made by a fellow called John Honn[mud turtle] who was a buckskinner I knew.Googling those names should bring you up something.I'm sure there are many others too.
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Thanks I'll have a look, don't have the property for one now, but maybe I should pick one up, because when I do end up getting the property, I will be broke :)
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Beadman,
yeah yeah you should know Lakotas do everything backwards ;D
for us eastern and NE tribes ,all movement is COUNTER clockwise. Our dances and stomps are ALWAYS counter clockwise...the way the bean plant spirals
NOT the way the honeysuckle grows! when you dance counter clockwise the fire is always closest to your heart and your sash knot faces outside of the circle
But try to make those plains Indians understand?...its hopeless. >:D
For you who are now worried.... You gotta know our tribes tease the daylights out of each other.
unęh!
Sǫhahiyǫh
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Nice! If you were to be living out of a tipi for an extended period of time, say a month or so, with one other person, what size range would you recommend?
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uncleduck....A 16 footer is pretty darn nice and roomy.Especially for two people,belongings etc. for a month.Cheaper than an 18 footer too a bit,[poles will probably cost the same]but sometimes whatever price range you can afford is good.My 12 footer is really just a hunting camp type size,[two people]but I know I could make it work for a month if I had to.Sounds contradictive I know but really a 16 footer is a nice size.Sometime if you can go to a buckskinner rendezvous you could get a first hand look.
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Beadman: Just saw this post. Nice, very nice teepee. I have a lodge (wall tent) which is pretty nice and I like it a lot. But, there's something magical about the teepee.
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This is really cool!! Hope I can have the room for one some day.
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Matt....Thanks yes it has it's own kind of feel living in it for sure with the fire and all.I have a wall tent too that I really like and saw your really nice set up at the classic.You had plenty of room in there for sure.I like using those army cots in there.I've been making some more willow & dogwood rod mats for the teepee.That good old artificial sinew binds them together pretty darn good.Takes time though.Hate sleeping on rain soaked ground.....LOL.
David...Don't know quite what you mean room for one someday but yes it's best to store your poles inside if possible and that takes a shed,lean to or garage of some sort.
I'm getting around to getting a digital camera to show more pictures.Hopefully within a week or so.I just welded up a good support off of the brush guard of my Toyota pickup to support the tips of the poles lately too.Used to have a Chevy truck to haul my circus earlier.Gearing up for next years classic and maybe Mojam in July.Doubt whether I'll have a fire inside then.It's usually about 95 to 100 degrees at Mojam most years.Have to find someone I trust to take care of my dogs.
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Beadman- Very nice set-up!! I have a 15 footer myself that I got from Ahki Tipi and we really like it. For whoever was asking about what size to get for 2 people comfortably, ours is perfect for us. Holds all our hunting and fishing tackle along with clothes, cooler, firepit, chairs, etc. We lay a heavy-duty tarp down on the floor and lace it up the sides of the liner and have never had a wet floor doing it this way. I know the tarp is far from primitive but we like being dry. The Mrs. went and got a full size air mattress and there's still plenty of room. Good luck with your tipi. The more fires you have in it the more water resistant it becomes.
G
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Yep I agree warpath.The more fires the better although there is some very good waterproof,mildewproof,&fire retardent canvas out there,but it does look nice seeing a used smoked tipi.I made a 2/3rds' fire retardent ozane for mine too.Glad you like yours.There really is a nastalgic feeling or nuance to living in one.Seems to get you in touch with mother nature.There's all kinds of things a person can do to their teepee.Painting designs on it etc.I had some friends who were art majors in college and they painted theirs with hawk figures all around the top and flaps.Looked pretty cool.
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I have made several teepees for a local trading post here in Oklahoma, A 14" and a 16", the measurements are not that hard, Laubins book the "native american teepee" I think it was called has dimensions in there for teepees. I use an old singer sewing machine and painters tarps from the local hardware store, you can build your own teepee for less than 150.00 bucks if your resourcefull.
Nice Lil teepee.
Eric
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Cool.Yea I know it is a lot cheaper dong it your self.I've had Laubins book here since 1980.My friend mud turtle and me came to a trade and he had made quite a few himself.He said he used egyption cotton on mine treated mildew and waterproof.I made a fire retardent 2/3rds ozane for mine too.Maybe you could help those other fellas that wanted to make their own.
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Well I started sewing in the living room, ended up stretching canvas to the kitchen, then eventually out the back door into the yard! LOL teepees are fun to make and especially paint!
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Yes it does take a lot of room.Looooooong tables etc.The canvas is cut on the bias and sewn on that way too to eliminate uneven stretching and a tight fit around the poles.The funnest neatest outdoor structure to sleep in,and it's not a tent like some people call it.It's a lodge.I hav'nt gotten into painting mine but just like the smoked used look it acquires after a while.That's enough for me.
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Excellent work. I made a 14 footer once, way back in the 20th Century, and utterly wore out my wife's sewing machine. Not the needle driving mechanism, but the feed dog just couldn't handle the stress. I got invited out to sleep in it for a few days... >:(
I spent more time debarking and smoothing the pine poles (those little twigs can cut the fabric) than sewing the skin, though. It's a big piece of work, but well worth it. When you pitch it, if you put the prevailing wind (usually from the west) at the back of the lodge, the flaps create a low pressure zone above the smoke hole, and draws the smoke outside. If you go the other direction, well, not good for asthmatics.
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Yes it can be very hard on home type model sewing machines.Paying attention to prevailing wind direction is a must with set up.I peeled my own poles too.Making them as smooth as possible because this is where water will run along the belly side of your poles so you don't want places where water can catch and drip from a big knot or twig.Water pegs are used or liner poles to make the water go clear to the bottom of your lodge between the liner and outside cover.I used spruce.21 footers for this 12' lodge.It's nice to have a good looking hour glass look coming out of the smoke hole.