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Title: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on May 19, 2013, 07:05:52 pm
Here are some pictures of the trade bow that I completed this weekend. It is 68” ntn and is made from vine maple. The tips are water buffalo horn shaped like arrow heads (John Strunk style). The handle wrap is mahogany dyed deer hide and the accents are rattlesnake skin trimmed with red serving thread. I used brown leather dye on the limbs and riser and finished it off with Tru-Oil.  The bow pulls 55# at 30” and holds a surprisingly amount of reflex for that draw length.  I hope my assigned  victim likes it.

(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy217/gferlitsch/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5180137.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/gferlitsch/media/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5180137.jpg.html)

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(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy217/gferlitsch/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190197.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/gferlitsch/media/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190197.jpg.html)

(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy217/gferlitsch/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190239.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/gferlitsch/media/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190239.jpg.html)

(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy217/gferlitsch/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190243.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/gferlitsch/media/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190243.jpg.html)


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(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy217/gferlitsch/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190212.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/gferlitsch/media/PA%202013%20Trade%20Bow/P5190212.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Pat B on May 19, 2013, 07:18:07 pm
Thats a real beauty, Gordon. Anyone will be happy with this bow.  8)   Don't bust a gut getting it to 30", Gordon. That would be a task for my 26" draw muscles.  ;)
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on May 19, 2013, 07:23:25 pm
No worries Pat, I'm only drawing it to about 28" in the picture.  ;D
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Post by: Badly Bent on May 19, 2013, 07:33:46 pm
Very nice Gordon. I always love seeing your creations and the graceful bends your bows have. This one looks like a really smooth pulling arrow launcher. I'd be happy to see that at my mailbox for sure. ;D
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Post by: killir duck on May 19, 2013, 07:35:45 pm
nice! i love that handle, the tips look awesome too.
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Post by: bubby on May 19, 2013, 07:43:07 pm
beautiful
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Post by: ionicmuffin on May 19, 2013, 07:43:37 pm
stunning!
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Post by: rps3 on May 19, 2013, 07:48:43 pm
WOW!
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Post by: Josh B on May 19, 2013, 07:55:22 pm
Oh my!  Words can't do it justice!  Josh
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Post by: blackhawk on May 19, 2013, 08:14:34 pm
Someone's gonna be one happy lucky dude ;).  Thanks for being a part of the trade this year Gordon ;)
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Post by: Ifrit617 on May 19, 2013, 08:17:10 pm
Wait did this bow come from heaven? No earthly man could create such a masterpiece!  >:D Incredible bow Gordon! You are truly gifted.

Jon
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Post by: toomanyknots on May 19, 2013, 08:38:37 pm
Dang, that is one cool bow. The tips are wicked.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on May 19, 2013, 08:44:08 pm
Nice bow like the way you did the tips.
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Post by: arklowrebel on May 19, 2013, 08:51:10 pm
That is a real beauty. Great work!
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Post by: CORIUS on May 19, 2013, 10:02:43 pm
Thats one fine piece of bendy wood!
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Post by: osage outlaw on May 19, 2013, 10:09:53 pm
Beautiful bow Gordon.  Judging by the specs, it won't be coming to me  :'(
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Post by: Danzn Bar on May 19, 2013, 10:13:40 pm
Art Work..............Craftmanship................ Fantastic
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Post by: lesken2011 on May 19, 2013, 10:41:28 pm
Quite a "stick", Sir. A real sweet bend, for sure. I expect most "righties" are already licking their chops for that one!! You really outdid yourself on this one. I echo Blackhawk's sentiments about you participating in this year's trade.
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Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on May 19, 2013, 11:11:13 pm
I certainly wish I was the "assigned" victim. That is an awesome bow especially with that amount of reflex. man its probably really fast.
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Post by: Dan K on May 19, 2013, 11:19:08 pm
Once again you set the standard for the rest of us to live up to Gordon.  Fantastic work!  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: k-hat on May 19, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
I just love your bows Gordon.  Beautiful in every respect.
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Post by: steelslinger on May 19, 2013, 11:44:39 pm
Very nice. someone is going to be very happy.
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Post by: okie64 on May 20, 2013, 12:15:22 am
Beautiful bow Gordon!
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Post by: autologus on May 20, 2013, 12:57:36 am
Another fine masterpiece from a master bowyer.

Grady
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Post by: Lemos on May 20, 2013, 02:16:21 am
They just keep getting prettier. I like the skin accents.
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Post by: Bryce on May 20, 2013, 02:27:25 am
Gordon you can bet that ****** will enjoy that fine piece of art for years to come.
Fantastic work my friend!

One of these days I'm gonna have to add an original "Gordon Ferlisch" bow to my collection.
Along with a few others on this forum.
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Post by: Pappy on May 20, 2013, 08:11:54 am
Very nice job as usual Gordon, we have come to expect no less, some lucky person should love that. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Blackcoyote on May 20, 2013, 10:02:56 am
wow, beautiful bow and some great inspiration!
-Drew
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Post by: Ed Brooks on May 20, 2013, 10:51:23 am
Nice Bow
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Post by: danny f on May 20, 2013, 01:53:15 pm
that is a stunning bow, i would be well pleased to recieve that.
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Post by: Parnell on May 20, 2013, 01:59:11 pm
I've started working on my first vine maple - it's beautiful wood.  I think I'm going to have to go with that brown leather dye.  It's beautiful on that wood for a finish!
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Post by: Zion on May 20, 2013, 04:50:03 pm
Good God that's a nice bow. Looks very functional. I like what you've been doing with the snake skins lately too, it fits perfect with this bow.
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Post by: juniper junkie on May 20, 2013, 08:18:14 pm
Top notch as usual, very nice indeed.
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Post by: beetlebailey1977 on May 20, 2013, 08:50:17 pm
Simply stunning......and fits my specs to a T.  I would love to have it headed my way.
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Post by: paulsemp on May 20, 2013, 09:05:08 pm
Your finish work is simply amazing! I do not have a 30" draw but I would sure try if it showed up at my house. Top notch work!
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Post by: Gordon on May 21, 2013, 12:23:01 am
Thank you guys. I very much appreciate all your really nice comments.
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Post by: coaster500 on May 21, 2013, 01:20:27 am
Man I love VM and Gordon you own it!!!!

That is gorgeous sir :)
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Post by: DuBois on May 21, 2013, 04:55:44 am
You are truely and artist!!
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Post by: IdahoMatt on May 21, 2013, 10:23:57 am
   To think you put so much of you love and energy into something so beautiful, only to give it away to a stranger.  WOW....
I do truly love this site and all of the gifted talent and generosity.  Man oh man.   I am very thrilled to be a part of something so selfless, in a world, with mostly the opposite. :).... Next year  ::)
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Post by: bushboy on May 21, 2013, 01:04:34 pm
Top notch as per usually gordon!love the finish work!
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Post by: Elktracker on May 21, 2013, 09:54:17 pm
WOW Gordon that is stunning and hold great reflex!!! Someone is going to be so happy!

Josh
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Post by: Blacktail on May 22, 2013, 12:48:07 am
WHAT,you found a piece of vm that is clean and 68''..SOME PEOPLE..LOL...great work gordon...the skins really jump out at you..john
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on May 22, 2013, 02:41:01 am
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WHAT,you found a piece of vm that is clean and 68''..SOME PEOPLE..LOL

Actually John, I spliced two billets together. I don't think I have ever seen a clean VM stave that long  ;D
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Post by: ohma2 on May 22, 2013, 09:26:50 am
another masterpiece godon..i dont post alot but when i see one of your bows i just have to.you have been an inspiration for years.
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Post by: ErictheViking on May 22, 2013, 12:36:20 pm
Absolutely spectacular Gordon.
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Post by: dwardo on May 23, 2013, 01:09:16 pm
Lovely as always.

Might find this strange but a couple of months ago I met another bowyer on a peninsula in the middle of a remote Scottish loch in what was more like winter than spring. Over a few arrows and a beer we got to discuss whos work we admired. Pretty much at the same time we both said "Gordons"


 
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on May 24, 2013, 10:30:03 pm
Beautiful work as always Gordon.  Did you see that it made the PA Facebook page?   So what do you think of vine maple in that design?  Looks to me like it works quite well.
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Post by: Brock on May 24, 2013, 11:52:10 pm
Very nice Gordon...the vine maple I have that John completed for me has taken some set but likely from my long draw...and using it in our hottest turkey seapon in 10 years..two years ago.  I am going to have him make me another out of vine maple or osage and put a backing on it...so my 29.5 inch draw does not mess it up. LOL

hope one day I can do as good of work as you have there on these pages...  thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on May 25, 2013, 03:17:28 am
That's funny dwardo. I would have never guessed that someone living in some remote Scottish lock would know who I am. The wonders of the Internet...

Hey Carson I checked out the page. That's pretty cool to see my pictures there. I've used this design with vine maple bows before to good effect, but I never seem to be able to hold on to them for very long.

Hey Brock. Ask John to make the bow a little longer than he usually does. That should take care of your long draw.

Thanks guys for your really nice comments.
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Post by: Chadwick on May 26, 2013, 12:16:45 am
Gordon, that bow looks so good that I'm hating you now. Way to set the bar!
Michael
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Post by: nathan elliot on May 26, 2013, 03:53:22 am
That's funny dwardo. I would have never guessed that someone living in some remote Scottish lock would know who I am. The wonders of the Internet...

I remember the conversation well (and the 2meter high snow!), you do build consistently fine bows sir, this one being no exception.
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on May 26, 2013, 03:56:08 pm
Well thank you Nathan. Do you ever get a chance to fish for sea trout and/or salmon? I've always wanted to visit your part of the world.

Thank you Michael, what a nice compliment.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on May 26, 2013, 04:17:25 pm
The term Master may get bandied about rather liberally, but in your case it is very accurate, Mr. Ferlisch.  The only bow you could not turn out is the one I wouldn't like!  Thanks for all your bows, Gordon!  Great inspiration for all of us.
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Post by: nathan elliot on May 26, 2013, 04:23:26 pm
Well thank you Nathan. Do you ever get a chance to fish for sea trout and/or salmon? I've always wanted to visit your part of the world.

Thank you Michael, what a nice compliment.

Yes Gordon I do! Every spare moment is spent down the river 5mins from my cottage. Mainly had brownies so far but am trying hard for salmon. Last Monday had the river to myself all day. With the odd patch of snow still on the mountains & alpine blue sky, it was a good day to be alive and there are no midges yet! If you are ever over this way stop by you would be very welcome :)
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Post by: Dvshunter on May 26, 2013, 06:01:18 pm
Excellent work again Gordon. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: Gordon on May 26, 2013, 06:33:50 pm
Nathan, I would dearly love to ply your rivers for salmon with my double handed rod and flies. And my wife is a piper and wants to visit Scotland something terrible. You might just have some company drop by!

What a nice compliment JW though I don't think I've made enough bows to be worthy of such a title. But thank you.

Thank you Dvs.
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Post by: missilemaster on May 27, 2013, 01:06:59 am
Excellent as ever! Dang but you can build a bow 
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Post by: Buffalogobbler on May 27, 2013, 11:31:23 am
Beautiful bow, I love the snake skins and the tips!

Kevin
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Post by: Jmilbrandt on May 27, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
Absolutely stunning! I like how you did the tips.
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Post by: dbb on May 27, 2013, 02:37:40 pm
A bow to be proud of, Both to maker and wielder!
I might steal the overlay idea :)

Mikael
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Post by: Jodocus on May 27, 2013, 03:39:11 pm
Sweet bow, elegant lines, that one looks swift.
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Post by: simson on May 28, 2013, 04:27:21 pm
Great bow, great work, great pics.
Your work is always a pleasure to look at.
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Post by: Jmilbrandt on May 28, 2013, 05:19:26 pm
Absolutely stunning! I like how you did the tips.
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Post by: vinemaplebows on May 28, 2013, 06:27:01 pm
Another beauty!
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Post by: Gordon on May 29, 2013, 12:09:05 am
Thank you all. I very much appreciate all your really nice comments.
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Post by: GregB on May 31, 2013, 11:35:58 am
Great looking bow, as expected I might add...never seen a bow posted by Gordon that didn't look like a piece of art.
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Post by: autologus on May 31, 2013, 01:04:41 pm
Great looking bow, as expected I might add...never seen a bow posted by Gordon that didn't look like a piece of art.

What do you mean "look like a piece of art", they are pieces of art.

Grady
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Post by: jorge10980 on September 28, 2013, 02:21:12 am
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WHAT,you found a piece of vm that is clean and 68''..SOME PEOPLE..LOL

Actually John, I spliced two billets together. I don't think I have ever seen a clean VM stave that long  ;D

What technique did you use to splice them together?
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on September 28, 2013, 01:58:46 pm
Jorge, I used a Z-splice to splice the billets together.
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Post by: jorge10980 on September 28, 2013, 03:31:47 pm
That is a beautiful vine maple bow especially because you were able to work around the bumps. :DI am thinking of making a vine maple bow since I live in the Portland area in Oregon and there is a lot of vine maple here. ;D Should I use the tension side for the back(side of stave that faces upwards).
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Post by: rockrush69 on September 28, 2013, 03:37:44 pm
How do you get into this tradebow thing . I dont make bows thT nice but would love to maybe trade two of mine for one of those he he ..... but how does it work.  Is it a drawing or what ? Do you have to sign up somewhere or something
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Post by: Weylin on September 28, 2013, 03:48:12 pm
Once a year we have a bow trade. It's something you sign up for. We just finished ours a month or so ago for this year. You need to be able to build a safe and reliable bow and have enough of a history/presence on the forum here so that we have some assurance that you're not a flake as we have had some problems in the past with people signing up, receiving a bow and then disappearing before they send one out to their recipient. There will be announcements when the next one gets under way.
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Post by: rockrush69 on September 28, 2013, 03:54:25 pm
Okay cool . Thnks . I take honer i. Archery and would never steal a bow.  Which is exactly what that would be . Also my bows shoot great and do t usually break . I sell alot of them and test shoot them at least 100 times before the sale . So . I dont have it on my shoulders . But i understand . And hopefully by next year i will be trustworthy . I have only been on here for about a month and hVe only made about six bows ( in The time i have been on here . Total bows ive made is around sixty. Give or take ten ) so i realize i have not earned my stripes yet . :) 
Title: Re: Vine maple trade bow
Post by: Gordon on September 28, 2013, 05:24:09 pm
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Should I use the tension side for the back(side of stave that faces upwards).

Yes, I use the tension side of a log when making a vine maple bow.
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Post by: Dan K on September 29, 2013, 05:24:54 am
Gordon,
Nice bow.  I've heard you can make a bow out of both the tension and compression side of a VM log.  With the compression side you just back it.  Is this correct?

I have several Vm's at different stages.  All are tension side.  This is incredible wood!!!  They all cam from logs and I hate to throw out the compression sides if they can make a bow.  What's your opinion on this?
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Post by: TimPotter on September 29, 2013, 09:00:50 am
Gordon as usual you have shown a beautifully crafted bow and the finish isn't too bad either.  :laugh:

What I really love about this one is how you went about the tip overlays. What was the inspiration?
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Post by: Gordon on September 29, 2013, 10:35:59 am
Dan, I've made bows from compression VM (no need to back) and there is just nothing special about their performance. But when you make a bow from a VM stave that has ample tension, now that is something special. I burn VM in my tipi fire as it burns hot and hardly sparks so I don't waste any compression wood.  8)

Tim, the overlays are copy of master bow maker John Strunk's signature tips.
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Post by: Don Case on September 29, 2013, 02:09:45 pm
Sorry but I have to ask. What side of vertical tree is the tension side? Prevailing wind maybe?
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Post by: jorge10980 on September 29, 2013, 03:20:22 pm
It's the side that faced skywards when cut.
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Post by: H Rhodes on September 29, 2013, 05:47:17 pm
I can't quit going back and looking at this one again!  Gordon, your work is truly inspiring.   Beautiful bow.