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Title: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 09, 2013, 07:50:56 pm
I had an old crock pot that was laying around and decided to use it to melt down and refine the bees wax that Pearl Drums gave me at the classic.  I put some in the pot, melted it low, strained out the big stuff, then put a piece of tee shirt over my strainer and stained out 12, 2oz cups of pure bees wax.  Now ain't these a thing of beauty?
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax002_zps28809e88.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax002_zps28809e88.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax001_zpsae9b6332.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax001_zpsae9b6332.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax003_zpsb540bbf6.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax003_zpsb540bbf6.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax004_zpscbe7533f.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/Beeswax004_zpscbe7533f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: TRACY on May 09, 2013, 08:49:15 pm
Very cool Charlie! I bet it smelled good ;)

Tracy
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: osage outlaw on May 09, 2013, 09:47:46 pm
We were joking about Charlie being the best smelling guy at the Classic  ;D 
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: seabass on May 09, 2013, 09:57:22 pm
good deal Charles.it turned out fine.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 09, 2013, 11:33:44 pm
Only thing that smells as good as honey...beeswax!  Such useful stuff, Charlie.

Measure out half an ounce of beeswax and add an ounce of high quality olive oil.  Makes a good lip balm in the winter.  Rub it on rough hands or heels to keep 'em soft.  Also makes a good patch lube for muzzleloading!
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JEB on May 10, 2013, 12:03:10 am
I use 2/3rd wax and 1/3 toilet bowl ring, (new one, if you use an old one you have to strain the wax  again, lol)
This makes the wax a little softer to use when making bow strings. 

 
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Wolf Watcher on May 10, 2013, 12:34:00 am
OK!  so now I have it figured out who this Pearl Drums guy is!  Have some wax and Hawk got a bunch!  Thanks much!  Joe
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Pat B on May 10, 2013, 01:36:47 am
he was the goofy looking guy from up north.  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Frawg on May 10, 2013, 01:56:12 am
Pat thats what they said about me when I relocated from Ohio to NC. So that tells me PD must be one helluva of a swell guy.  ;D
Matt
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 10:44:40 am
Did a second melting this morning, and got 16 more 2 oz cups of the good stuff.  Still have at least two more meltings to go.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: osage outlaw on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 pm
Joe, Pearl Drums was the guy with the beard and skinny arms running around telling everybody that he got a Pappy bow  ;)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 10, 2013, 03:59:28 pm
Boy oh boy look at the bunch of tough guys jibbering now that Im 500 miles north again!  There will be another Classic fella's and I will be there, gunships and all. Brennan and Anders are #1 and #2 on my "list".

Glad you got a positive ID on me Joe! We spoke several times in passing.

I was hoping Mike (Hawk) would know what that wax was for. I never got a chance to introduce myself or explain what I left him. Clint told me what it was for and I flopped a box down on his table.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 04:21:36 pm
Got some more filtered today, but found some still trash in some of the small containers.  I am sure some of yours do to Pearl, as I had nothing but the metal strainer with me when I did yours.  So here is my yield so far, and still have two meltings to do.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s001_zps8ba8ec80.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s001_zps8ba8ec80.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s003_zps212311e4.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s003_zps212311e4.jpg.html)
I noticed so trash in some of the containers, so what I did is just run the raw melted wax through the metal strainer to get the big stuff and other junk out.  See the big squares?
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s004_zpsa50e436f.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s004_zpsa50e436f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 04:24:05 pm
When I removed the squares and looked at the bottoms....trash.  This will not be acceptable for me and bow wax.  So I am melting it all, running it through the metal strainer, then it will all get melted again, and run through a cloth and metal staining to get every piece of trash out.  See the trash on the bottoms.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s005_zps5da5148a.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s005_zps5da5148a.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s006_zpsc6a05691.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s006_zpsc6a05691.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s007_zpsfbce7008.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/s007_zpsfbce7008.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 10, 2013, 04:50:57 pm
I use it just like that Charlie. Works fine for me. I bet cheese clothe would work good, but would strain slowly.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 05:04:05 pm
I am using up my old tee shirts, cut and put in the metal strainer and then add the melted wax.  It takes a little while to sift through, but it will be 100 per clean.  I just got four more big squares poured out, and got the last melting in the pot now.  Should get another 3 squares.  I will let every thing rest this evening and night, and the put it all back in the pot, melt it down again, and then do a final straining.  Might pick up some cheese cloth in the morning and see if it works better than the tee shirt.  What I need is some old panty hose.  But no ladies around here to get them from....lol.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 10, 2013, 05:20:15 pm
You might wanna take a second to re-think your harsh comment about "trash".  In all likelihood any part of that dark stuff that is not bee legs, antennae, body parts is likely to be propolis. 

Propolis is now believed to:
1.reinforce the structural stability of the hive
2.reduce vibration
3.make the hive more defensible by sealing alternate entrances
4.prevent diseases and parasites from entering the hive, and to inhibit bacterial growth[3]
5.prevent putrefaction within the hive. Bees usually carry waste out of and away from the hive. However if a small lizard or mouse, for example, finds its way into the hive and dies there, bees may be unable to carry it out through the hive entrance. In that case, they would attempt instead to seal the carcass in propolis, essentially mummifying it and making it odorless and harmless.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: bubby on May 10, 2013, 05:20:33 pm
 I got a buddy that has bees, brings me in big balls of raw wax and I use it just like that, still has a little honey mixed in, works great just like that and when your done waxing a string you get to lick the honey off your fingers
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 05:51:00 pm
JW, you got me on that one.  So let's just put it as unwanted materials in the wax that I do not use :)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 10, 2013, 05:53:28 pm
Dang it all, Charlie, you brought all that cane to the Classic and I didn't even get to look at it, much less sit down and pick your brain about making arrows from it. 
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 06:27:58 pm
Man you was spread out so thin, I think I seen you flying a couple of times...lol.  Wished we had more time, just so little time and so much going on.  Hard to get it all in within a few days.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 10, 2013, 07:00:29 pm
The last of it.  Now to remelt it all and do a final straining.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/wax001_zps6d7cf5cd.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/wax001_zps6d7cf5cd.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/wax005_zps47a4e2a6.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/wax005_zps47a4e2a6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: seabass on May 10, 2013, 11:47:36 pm
Charlie,when you get ready to do some trading let me know.i need some of that.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 11, 2013, 06:34:51 pm
I got it all melted down, strained twice through double cheese cloth.  I finished up with 84, 1.60z containers which is right at 8.4lbs.  I also poured out 7 special blend containers for me to try and have about 5 or 6 more in the crock pot of the special blend until I see if my blend is what I want as I know what mixture and ratio is in it.  Enjoy the pictures, this is the last of the bees wax melting.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/001_zps98492d82.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/001_zps98492d82.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/002_zps1a9e04c7.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/002_zps1a9e04c7.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/003_zps93e4e0a3.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/003_zps93e4e0a3.jpg.html)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/004_zps8931bf80.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/004_zps8931bf80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 11, 2013, 06:35:44 pm
And my 7 special blend to try. ;)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/005_zps7b4f58ac.jpg) (http://s43.photobucket.com/user/STRINGSTRETCHER/media/2013%20Tenn%20Classic/005_zps7b4f58ac.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: bhenders on May 11, 2013, 06:47:38 pm
I'm assuming you have bees?  I've been looking all over Lansing for some wax...
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 11, 2013, 07:10:05 pm
WOW.....
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 11, 2013, 07:17:16 pm
No I don't have bees, but good friends that supply me with some to melt down and clean.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 12, 2013, 01:10:51 pm
I took and mixed some pine pitch with some bees wax after finding a recipe for it on the net, and it is some great string making wax.  The wax is still hard but has a stickiness that is just perfect for string making.  I am loving this stuff.

Pearl, get all you can my friend.

And for anyone out there that can get bees wax, if you will get it, ship it to me, I will refine and clean it up and send half back to you for you self.  So go looking for bees everyone.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 12, 2013, 04:24:46 pm
Someone just gave me an entire beehive, two bottom boxes with 9" frames, two hive supers with frames, queen excluder, bottom board, top board, etc. 

I have to remember to call Animal Control, 911 Dispatch, and all the pest control companies and tell them I am prepared to run out and scoop up a bee swarm if they get a call.  Nothing like a free hive and finding free bees to put in it.  If the swarm proves to be some ornery bees, I can order a good Minnesota Hygenic queen, Italian queen, or Russian queen and squash the mean queen.  Nothing like toppling a bad monarchy and replacing it with a hand picked sweetheart. 

Bees are cool.  Waaaay cool.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 12, 2013, 04:32:02 pm
So when should I expect my first shipment of wax JW?....lol
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 12, 2013, 05:27:22 pm
You can raise bees for wax or honey.  I happen to like honey in my tea of a morning.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 12, 2013, 05:28:52 pm
It smells and looks better when others raise it and give it to me... >:D ;D
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Paul F on May 12, 2013, 10:04:28 pm
Even more so for me as I am allergic to them.  But grats on all that string wax.

Paul F.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: BowEd on May 13, 2013, 08:30:04 am
Now that's a haul of beeswax.Proves what a little effort can get ya.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: wildman on May 13, 2013, 11:28:19 am
Just traded my Amish buddy for a feed sack of raw beeswax. Now to talk the wife out of a crock pot!
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stringstretcher on May 13, 2013, 11:37:41 am
You will get a lot from it Wildman.  Let me know how it works up for you.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Stringman on May 13, 2013, 11:39:41 am
Just traded my Amish buddy for a feed sack of raw beeswax.

Hope he was ok with that, slavery is becoming a little frowned on around here.  ::)

Ok, bad joke, but I couldn't help myself!  ;D
Scott
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 13, 2013, 01:26:39 pm
Im laughing up here Scott! Myself? I would have kept the Amish buddy to peel and seal my osage and just looked elsewhere for wax.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: Stringman on May 13, 2013, 04:11:19 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: stickbender on May 13, 2013, 09:24:10 pm

    Might try a pair of panty hose, or nylon stockings. ;)

                                     Wayne
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 13, 2013, 09:54:19 pm

    Might try a pair of panty hose, or nylon stockings. ;)

                                     Wayne

....if you can find some that fit and are not too uncomfortable to wear.
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: wildman on May 13, 2013, 10:28:27 pm
Never work ,ya ever try to get an Amish guy in panty hose???? ;D >:D
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 13, 2013, 10:34:05 pm
Tell him to do it or else he'll get traded away!!!
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: wildman on May 13, 2013, 10:49:28 pm
Laughed so hard spit beer on my computer!!
Title: Re: Pure Gold from the Classic
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 13, 2013, 11:20:27 pm
Laughed so hard spit beer on my computer!!

Wait until your wife tells you to get your own pantyhose to strain your beeswax.