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Title: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 09, 2013, 12:35:04 pm
I have some larger billet pieces with very thick sapwood and really didn't want to spend hours draw knifing the stuff off. The top rings were so-so, the lower rings were really nice. The billet pieces weren't thick enough to get a full sized core split from so I decided to core split off a few heartwood rings plus the bark and sapwood to save some work.

Things went pretty well, the split didn't follow one ring but I did accomplish what I had planned.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodcorecloseup_zps29b2e7dc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodcorecloseup_zps29b2e7dc.jpg.html)

Leftovers;

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/osagesapwoodcoresplit_zps54bf90f8.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/osagesapwoodcoresplit_zps54bf90f8.jpg.html)

 I had to spend abut 10 minutes on each piece cleaning up the backs of any remaining sapwood, I didn't chase one grain. I had this after about 45 minutes of work instead of may hours to doing the same job in the conventional way.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodcorebilletssealed_zpsb603a4a9.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodcorebilletssealed_zpsb603a4a9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: hatcha on May 09, 2013, 12:49:23 pm
Brilliant!!

That's thinking outside the box! :)
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Dean Marlow on May 09, 2013, 12:53:04 pm
I have done a-lot of that but I had some of the same issues as you. If I try to belly split to close to the top of the stave it usually won't follow a ring and will run up towards the sap. You got to have some pretty thick wood on both sides where you are trying to belly split.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Pappy on May 09, 2013, 01:08:01 pm
I do that every chance I get,most times it works out very good. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 09, 2013, 01:25:09 pm
Here are a few more pictures of the procedure;

I define the split by pounding a large screwdriver in the ring I want to run a split down.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/30f51ab7-d779-430f-b199-697e82975ca6_zps616d14a3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/30f51ab7-d779-430f-b199-697e82975ca6_zps616d14a3.jpg.html)

I save the wood wedges from my splices for splitting wood and use one to open the screwdriver split. I actually used two of the wood wedges in the end and one in the side as the split opened up.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodwoodwedgescrewdriver_zps60b83105.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodwoodwedgescrewdriver_zps60b83105.jpg.html)

Next comes the metal wedge;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodmetalwedgeend_zps6d660b3f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodmetalwedgeend_zps6d660b3f.jpg.html)

Folowing the splt down the log;

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodtwowedgemiddlesplit_zps896f8859.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodtwowedgemiddlesplit_zps896f8859.jpg.html)

The final result;

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/sapwoodsplitcomplete_zps5cbdce62.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/sapwoodsplitcomplete_zps5cbdce62.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Fred Arnold on May 09, 2013, 01:29:18 pm
Eric and Pappy, I've tried 3 times to do that type of split and on every occasion almost ended up with disaster. Lack of experience, where to start the split, and what to use as a tool may be the culprit in my case. Any pointers?

Thank you Eric, you posted while I was typing.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Bryce on May 09, 2013, 02:15:11 pm
WASTEFUL! That sapwood is beautiful stuff! Makes a good back riser.

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh544/bryceott/null-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Carson (CMB) on May 09, 2013, 02:56:37 pm
I have had good luck keeping on one ring using a machete as an impromptu Fro. 
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: RyanY on May 09, 2013, 02:58:37 pm
Work smarter not harder! I like it.  8)
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: RidgeRunner on May 09, 2013, 03:30:30 pm
I have tried that before...
Sometimes it works well Sometimes it don't.
It would seem to me that it works better if you start at the top end of the log and split down toward the stump end.

David
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 09, 2013, 03:36:14 pm
I did that on these David, split top to bottom.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: blackhawk on May 09, 2013, 05:58:15 pm
I've had mixed results as well..sometimes they like to shoot up towards the bark side n will run off because there's less resistance that way...and it prob worked well for you seeing how there only billets and only going around half the length compared to a full length stave
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 09, 2013, 07:46:33 pm
This osage was very easy to split as well, even when I was splitting out staves.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Dances with squirrels on May 09, 2013, 08:46:41 pm
I do that too. Even if it runs out and doesn't split end to end, it still saves a lot of drawknifing.... and time... and energy.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on May 09, 2013, 09:51:25 pm
I tried chasing a ring on a short locust bow with a pocketknife... it was work, but not diffucult... took me an hour to do each foot...
But it looked really cool. I am still working on it. Its actually miniture... I want to boil the tips and recurve.
Title: Re: Bark and sapwood removal, the lazy way
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 09, 2013, 09:57:57 pm
Thinner splits thinner wedges generally speaking !
Screwdrivers and such !
Have fun !