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Title: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 10, 2013, 03:03:26 am
After cutting my hand on a camping trip while cleaning a fish I decided it would be much safer to find a different way to clean fish.  This is what I came up with.  It's not only safer but you get all the meet from the fish and it's much faster and easier than filleting a fish.  Check it out and let me know what y'all think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWdkCAzAbpo
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: robby on March 10, 2013, 12:15:49 pm
That was pretty cool Tim!!! Do you notice any difference in flavor from on that is scaled with skin left on.
Robby
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: owlbait on March 10, 2013, 12:47:42 pm
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Can't beat a bluegill as far as taste either.
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Post by: Scottski on March 10, 2013, 12:51:49 pm
I will try this next time I go fishing.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 10, 2013, 01:10:48 pm
Thanks guys!

Do you notice any difference in flavor from one that is scaled with skin left on.

To be honest I've never scaled a fish.  However, with this method the scales get charred and act as a plate so I think if you scaled it your meat might get burned.  I've never heard of scales affecting the flavor of the meat though.  In other species of fish it may make a difference but with bream the meat is very good.  To answer your question, in my opinion scales would not make a difference in this case.
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Post by: Frawg on March 10, 2013, 01:52:33 pm
Good video Tim, I think I will do this with the younglings this summer during our camping weekends.
Matt
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Post by: sleek on March 10, 2013, 02:23:38 pm
Just wait till the crappie start breading.... its on! For sure gonna try this method.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on March 10, 2013, 07:37:33 pm
I'll have to head back to the pond & try that.
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Post by: richardzane on March 10, 2013, 09:07:00 pm
nice! straight and simple...for eatin' as you catch
 appreciate these great tips
 like slinging rabbits inards right from its rear-end with a quick snapping fling.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on March 10, 2013, 11:16:19 pm
...Like slinging rabbits inards right from its rear-end with a quick snapping fling.
Hadn't heard of that way, but now I'll try it!

Tim, good job thinking of a new way to do things.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: RabidApache on March 11, 2013, 01:11:07 pm
Cool vid. You can also do that with birds and small mammals thrown under a pile coals and covered. No need to remove feathers, skinning or even gutting required. Here in the southwest most natives charred quail, wood rats or other small game caught. Back in my younger days I'd go out with small group of Apache boys (8-12yr olds) in my neighborhood armed with little spears and bows & arrows for a overnite in the desert. We would hunt all day, with the grand prize of killing a cottontail for supper. If you killed a rabbit you were the "king" that night.LOL For cooking utensils we carried a knife, matches, canteen of water and a maybe a small baggy of salt.
Basically for quail or wood rats we'd simply cover with coals for about 5-8 minutes depending on heat source. Once done remove from coals until cool then peel the char off and eat to your delight!!!!
My grandma, back in her day would char, peel, and grind into a paste bones and all.  ;D
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 12, 2013, 02:43:07 pm
Wow, your grandma sounds pretty hardcore.  I imagine that paste would taste good fried.  Does the skin and fur/feathers peel off pretty easily?  I think with those animals I would try to utalize the fur and the feathers though.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 12, 2013, 03:21:40 pm
There's a video shot in Harding County during our infamous "Bring Your Daughter Antelope Hunting With JW" week!  The comments from the bunny huggers were pretty snarky.  Search youtube for guttingarabbit.MOV for a laugh.

Oh, and before you jump my case about killing poor defenseless bunnies,it was the little girl that mowed them down with her .410!!!  I just demonstrated how to gut them.  Mmmm, they were delicious that night in camp.  And for desert we had antelope inside loins. 

By the way, the dog did NOT get to eat bunny guts.  I miss that dang dog.

These simple, primitive ways are fun!
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 12, 2013, 04:19:23 pm
Yeah, I expect to get a few comments from fish sympathizers but I doubt it will be nearly as bad as bunny huggers.  There will always be people that think animals are worth as much as humans... and they'll always be wrong.  >:D
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: RabidApache on March 13, 2013, 12:10:16 pm
Wow, your grandma sounds pretty hardcore.  I imagine that paste would taste good fried.  Does the skin and fur/feathers peel off pretty easily?  I think with those animals I would try to utalize the fur and the feathers though.

My grandma has since passed away. Born in the early 20's and lived til she was 82. She grew up just about the time the Apache Wars had ended in the Southwest. Amazing stories of survival and everyday life. She was born in a wikiup (primitive brush shelter) and told stories of the calvary days. Amazing.

To answer your question, the charred feathers/skin peel as easily as charred fish skin. Yeah you could save the skins and feathers but why. There's higher quality of furs,skins and feathers that were saut after just for that purpose.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: primitivepaulette on March 17, 2013, 12:08:36 pm
This is a great thread.. I've gotta try this! Kudos to Primative Tim and the rest of you who know how to do the 'real deal'! Fascinating. I just cleaned some fish that were given to me and the perch were nice size.. but I ended up wasting a LOT of the meat.. such a shame. not sure if these photo will post or not.. but if I could do it all over.. I'd for sure try this method of cleaning and cooking fish! Next time for sure.. maybe I can do this on the grill? Wonder if I can toss a fish into the panini griddler?? I must try it! well thanks for the ideas Tim!
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/482405_10152663361960501_766087575_n.jpg
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 19, 2013, 12:14:01 am
Cool video Tim, enjoyed watching it. 8)
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 19, 2013, 12:54:17 am
Thanks guys for the encouragement.

Paulette, here's your picture.  The cat and dog add a lot to the picture :D
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/482405_10152663361960501_766087575_n.jpg)

I've cooked them on the grill this way before....14 at once.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/19204_10151323947579865_291788637_n.jpg)
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: sleek on March 19, 2013, 03:11:33 am
Why is my mouth all of a sudden watering?
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 19, 2013, 09:34:16 am
Sleek, it happens when you get blood on your hands or see someone else get blood on their hands. lol
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Post by: sadiejane on March 19, 2013, 09:56:33 am
have laotian neighbors to the north of me. this is how they clean/cook crappie, perch etc.
toss em on the grill, peel and eat all the meat off one side, flip em over and work on that side.

its always fun to watch when they get a deer or half a beef.
toss it on the picnic table and away they go. in no time its all in small cuts, wrapped and in the freezer.
well, except what goes on the grill right now.

they always laugh when i ask for the legs, hide and head...

love it when they cook out-yum!
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: primitivepaulette on March 19, 2013, 01:28:33 pm
oh yeah, that pic of the fish on the grill is making me hungry too! nice!

Sadie.. yes, that has to be interesting watching the Loatian's working on the deer or beef butchering like that.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: stickbender on March 19, 2013, 04:24:07 pm

     Oh what a horrible person you are! :o  Why those poor fish, were
the rare adult, "Black Finned" Coffin Minnow!  They would have been spawning now, if not for you and your callous disregard for the lives of those poor fish!  >:( I will have to report you to PETA, and we will have to have service honoring those poor lost souls!  :( Yes a wake for fish! >:(  :'( We will bring tambourines, small drums, whistles, and we will join hands, in a circle, and wail,thrash around on the ground, and grab handfulls of grass, and dirt, but with no life forms, in it, and scream and wail, why, oh why?!, >:( and then we will have a feast in their honor.  Maybe some hamburger, or hotdogs, or steak, or chicken, but only from the Super Market, and not from a farm, where they kill animals!  :o :P  Then we can all have a little wine, and toast the poor lost souls, and sit by the water's edge, and watch how the little "Black Finned" Minnows, mourn for their parents, :'( and then when it gets dark, we will have the naked dancing in the woods,commune with nature, and sing how we are morally superior to you!  You prehistoric brute! >:(   :'(

     Good job, quick and easy. ;)  As for wood rats, and birds, I would handle the rats as little as possible, because of the possibility of the Hanta virus, and avoid breathing the smoke, as the burning of hair, feathers, and flesh, produces phosgene gas, :P which is a baddy, for the health and well being of us humans. ;)
I actually read a statement from one of peta's rocket scientists, where she said, " we were at Walden Pond, and we observed a wounded minnow, as it's fellow minnows, gathered around it to give it support." ???  Uh, if you had stayed a little longer, you would have seen what was really going on!  They were not gathered around to give it support, but to see, if it was still able to defend itself, and then they devoured it!  ;) Idiots! >:(  They are out there, and they vote. :P

                                                    Wayne
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 19, 2013, 04:38:42 pm
PETA...SMH. The extensive use of smileys really made it emotional.  Wait, do they really dance naked in the woods??? hmm...
PETA folks really are quite the entertaining bunch. lol


Yeah, I try not to breathe smoke regardless of what's burning... I think I heard it's unhealthy.

One thing I want to accomplish with these videos is to give people a better understanding of nature.  The nature of nature(Darn! that's already a book title).  We're at a very interesting point in history where the diversity of beliefs is very high.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: stickbender on March 20, 2013, 12:12:53 am

     Oh, yeah, peta is very entertaining .  I like to hear some of the outlandish, "science" based facts they try to come up with.  I think they actually believe that Bambi was a documentary! :o ::)  I am surprised Sadie is able to get the head, and legs, and hide from the Laotians!  :P 

                                                  Wayne
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: sleek on March 20, 2013, 01:01:51 am
Bambi is not a movie I allow to be played in my house... Wife asked me why, I said sit and watch it from a hunters point of view. She looked at me and said, Oh...  and comeon, a guy skunk named flower? WTF? Ok, this topic is de-railed...
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Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on March 20, 2013, 12:30:15 pm
Threadjackers ;)

Does PETA bashing come under politics, or religion?
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Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 20, 2013, 12:44:57 pm
Whenever PETA comes up you know the thread is done for. 
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Post by: sleek on March 20, 2013, 02:38:16 pm
I thought it was an event?
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on March 20, 2013, 03:03:06 pm
I really shouldn't talk...

I troll PETA people harder than anyone.
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 20, 2013, 09:52:17 pm
I really shouldn't talk...

I troll PETA people harder than anyone.
  Good. They deserve it.  I troll birders sometimes :D  We get a lot of them down here in the Winter....
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 20, 2013, 10:42:02 pm
I really shouldn't talk...

I troll PETA people harder than anyone.
  Good. They deserve it.  I troll birders sometimes :D  We get a lot of them down here in the Winter....

Don't make me turn my redtail hawk loose on you!   >:(

Ok, she's not mine. She belongs to the people of the United States and I am listed as one of the primary caretakers under my USF&W permit and I am not allowed to fly her as a falconry bird.  But she is known to poop and I can always aim her at you!  So there!

All this emotionally charged vituperative back-and-forth is making me hungry, wish I had me some crappies and bluegills to toss on the coals!
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: PrimitiveTim on March 20, 2013, 11:10:27 pm
I knew there were some birders on here.  The truth is, I can identify most of the birds I see and know a fair bit about them.  However, you will never see me with a pair of binoculars or a camera lens that costs more than my truck.  Birds of prey are awesome predators and I respect them for that.  Funny you mention it pooping on me cause something huge pooped on my windshield.  I left it cause it blends in with the rest of my crappy truck.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on March 20, 2013, 11:14:49 pm
 >:D

Mwahahaha, my agent has done my dirty work for me!
Title: Re: My Primitive Way of Cleaning and Cooking fish
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on March 25, 2013, 02:32:08 am
I am a birder... I greatly enjoy watching birds. That goes for awesome birds. Not pidgeons that go poo on you when you try to have a nice picnic with family. That is what a bow and flu-flu arrows are for;)