Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Matt A on March 06, 2013, 01:28:52 am
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I'm confused why noone else seems to utilize this nock, :o they're much lighter and thinner than most any other nock style out there. and they can be GORGEOUS~! if done right. you can also file a really small secondary notch ahead of the string groove on each end that you can use a simple looped rope instead of making a leather stringer.
Just a thought ;D
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There my favorite kind of nock :)
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BOOM thank you. I can't hardly find them in a google search they're so uncommon lol
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Pin nocks are my favorite as well. I have a stylized version I use a lot.
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I've been using pin nocks almost exclusively for the last 15 years :-)
I'm not really into overlays, except for yew.
ciao,
gian-luca
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I also use pin nocks most of the time.
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well I for one would like to know how to do them rite. Maybe a little visual example would set me on the straight and narrow >:D
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I second that. Can we see some pics, please?
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http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=17020.0
Trying to cut and paste on my IPad, hope it worked. Here is a link to some nice ones from some of people of PA.
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You mean like this?(http://)These are probably the largest of the ones I've done. After I cut the nocks in ,I remove the excess on the sides above the groove. I figure it's just dead weight.Only thing is , if you're overzealous when stringing, you can overshoot the small ones pretty easy with the push pull method.
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i recently started a HHB bow that I put on a cow horn overlay on and filed the string groove and stringer groove. I don't have internet on my phone, but could forward the pictures to whoever would be willing to post em for me.
I also love them because there's so much less mass at the tips vs. regular nocks + a little more aerodynamic
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Here's a couple of mine. Vine Maple with overlays, dogwood without
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I use pin nocks, much easier to make and i like my bows simple and beautiful.
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The only disadvantage of pin nocks I can see is that they dont protect the string as well from hard hunting use. Probably not too big a concern with modern string materials. I like them and use them. I am just trying to think of any reason you might not want pin nocks.
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i particularly like the derogatory hand gesture they imply,the one i use a lot while driving like a life long country boy.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Hammerstone. Now I can never look at them the same again................
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I don't use them much As I like to keep the string on the bow when its unstrung... with pin knocks the string tends to fall off and i just get annoyed
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I never use pin nocks. I tend to end up with cordage wraped knocks....they are primitive, easy to make and doesn't interfer with the bows lines. Maybe I should try pin nocks:-)
Cheers
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Hey Hammerstone, maybe we should change the name to "Eff-ewe" knocks ,just as a conversation starter . See how long it is before curiosity gets the better of the new guys and they have to ask. >:D
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clever lol
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i particularly like the derogatory hand gesture they imply,the one i use a lot while driving like a life long country boy.
:laugh: :laugh: That's a good one. I like pin nocks more and more. Four little cuts on the band saw and some smoothing up with the round file - done. So much simpler than messing around with a bunch of overlays.
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Hey Hammerstone, maybe we should change the name to "Eff-ewe" knocks ,just as a conversation starter .
Or for the Osage guys, they could call them "F-Yew" nocks ;)
They are so easy to make. On mine I use my hand pull saw to cut the diagonals on the side (down to the depth) and then on the backside I jab the point of a knife blade into the back at the depth of the nock and the waste just split-pops off leaving the pin nock shape. Little clean up and rounding with a file and sand paper and yer done.
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When I first started I thought "pin nocks are lame" then I started making them and now they are my favorite.
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The smallest pin nocks i have seen/ used were on a bow built by the late David Mims out of Misissippi on a bow he made for me I named "Twiggy". They were minuscule, and i was sure everytime I drew the bow, the string would fly off, but it never did. If you keep back issues of PA check out the June/July 10 issue vol 18-3 for an article called " Ain't Much of a Bow".
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I don't use them much As I like to keep the string on the bow when its unstrung... with pin knocks the string tends to fall off and i just get annoyed
Yeah, I was wondering about this. I love the idea of pin nocks, but do you have to remove the string when not braced?
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Mickey- I remember that article very well!
DuBois -Depends on the style /design. I make a string keeper for most of my bows , but some of the Molly(ish ) don't need them depending on where the transition ison the lever section.
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There fine on most hard woods but I had 2 ,one crack ,one break off white wood bows (hickory,slippery elm).
There is on benfit ,other that makeing the tips lighter to dedue hand shock.
But there's other ways of keeping the right tip weight other than pin nocks to dedue hand shock. Good tillering makeing sure one limb dos'nt finish before the other, keeping the last 4 inch of your tip light enough ,putyour tips don't bend..
I'm not saying don't use them by all means build bows the ways you like. But I keep them on the stout side. Or you might be shorting a bow.
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I always use a loop on top, tied on bowyers knot on the bottom (never can get the length right with 2 loops) so I don't have the string falling off problem even with pin nocks.
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I don't use them much As I like to keep the string on the bow when its unstrung... with pin knocks the string tends to fall off and i just get annoyed
You dont hafta use em on both ends. :)
Mickey,
Nice to see you sneakin back in now n then.