Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Lee Lobbestael on February 15, 2013, 11:52:37 pm
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Hey guys I'm up in Michigan and we aren't fortunate to have river cane this far north so I was wondering if one of you southern boys would like to sell me some?
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There's probably lots of guys willing to sell you some cane, but we normally keep the money talk in private messages. :)
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Cane is one thing I can get around here. Lots of it what are you looking for and what do you have to trade for it?
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well I could trade some trade points I don't have a whole lot else I can think of off the top of my head
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If you are coming to the Tenn Classic, or know of someone that is, I can get you some Japanese Arrow Bamboo and would have it there waiting on you. Just a suggestion.
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Thanks Stringstretcher but I don't think I can make it down there. I wish!
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What are you wanting?
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Scotski;
check your local nurseries, and see if they carry bamboo, and see if the have any Japanese arrow bamboo, or anything similar. You might be able to get cuttings from them, when they trim them back. You want second year growth, with either dead or no sheaths on them. You can use a 3/8's inch wrench to measure the base.
If you don't have any luck in that route, go to Lowes, or Home depot, and go to the garden section, and get their bamboo tomato stakes. Or send a pm to Mullet, Eddie Parker, and get the address of the Place in Lakeland, Florida, that sells bundles of five hundred arrow bamboo. They can even size them for you. I think it is like $75.00 per five hundred, plus shipping. I am going to go there when I get back to Florida, in mid April, and get a bundle. But try your local Nurseries, you can call them and ask if they have any arrow type bamboo, (bambusa Japonica) and if they have any cuttings, etc. Or if they do, just buy a couple of plants, and plant them away from your house, cause being like any bamboo, they grow well, and fast. In a couple of years, you will have all the arrow bamboo you will need. Plus trading, or marketing material for other Primitive archers in your area. ;) Just an idea. You can get someone else to go in with you to order the bundle of five hundred. Eddie, can send you the address, and info.
Wayne
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Ok thanks for the info. Was that ment for me or someone else? I go a few miles down the road and cut my own cane most of the time. I was trying to help out Lee.
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Yeah Scottski I think me. Some good ideas there. I like to cut my own red osier and dogwood but want to get ahold of some cane. I like the idea of growing my own. Will it grow in Mi?
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Accuatly it is about $50 plus shipping for 4'x 8-10mm Tonkin Bamboo. This stuff is bullet proof and you can sand the nodes down completely, it looks like a carbon when you are through.
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what would I ask for at the nursery? Japanese arrow bamboo plants? or is there another name it goes by?
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Ooooops!!! :o Yeah, it was meant for lee. I think Japanese arrow bamboo is called "Bambusa Japonica", or something like that. Pat B would be the man ask about that. Just ask if they have any Japanese arrow bamboo, or Tonkin bamboo, and tell them what you want it for, then even if they know it by another name, they will get the general idea, and if they have any boo that fits that description, then you can check it out. Yeah, get with some others who want to make their own arrows, and get the info from Mullet, and order a batch of five hundred. Sorry, about the price, I guess the $75.00 was the total of shipping included. Or it might be more, depending on where you are. Or...... just order it for yourself, and you will have all the arrow shaft material you need, for quite awhile, or trade material. ;) Not to mention tomato stakes, material for making fish traps, ........ ::) ;D, and errant child training aides. ::) :P ;D ;D Anyway, that stuff is GREAT! Like Eddie said when you finish it, it looks like carbon, and shoots like it, and is almost indestructible, as an arrow. It will take a lot of punishment! 8) After I sand it down after I have finished straightening it, and putting in the nock, I just stick a small nail, or bamboo skewer, or dowel, in one end, and tie a string to it, and hang it up, and use a can of spray lacquer on it, and it dries pretty quick, and then I lightly sand it, with 0000 steel wool, and put another coat on it, and when that dries, I repeat the 0000 steel wool, but very lightly, and it is ready for fletching, and a point. ;) You can stain it, if you want, before spraying it with the lacquer. Like I said, when I go back to Florida, and I am going to go over to Lakeland, and try to get Eddie to take me to the place where they sell it, and get the guy to sort them for me. I will bring them back out here. He has dealt with them before, and the guy knows what he wants them for.
Good luck with whatever you decide. But I think once you make a couple arrows out of the Tonkin, you will be hooked! ;)
Wayne
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Lee Tennessee is the place you ought to be !! >:D
a few folks from that state up north will be there maybe they would drag some back for you ! Pearl drums or Matt Wirwikki ,and Gary Davis ,most likely others !!
Or come to Marshall Mi. memorial weekend and ask around ,last year I saw a couple of arm loads get given away so they had room to haul other stuff home !!!I think we even burned some when cleaning up after !
Hope to see ya around !!
Guy
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Lee how much are looking for I have about 25 dozen in my grage pm me I live in perry mi.
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Yeah Scottski I think me. Some good ideas there. I like to cut my own red osier and dogwood but want to get ahold of some cane. I like the idea of growing my own. Will it grow in Mi?
It does grow in Michigan. I've got a small grove in from of my screen porch in Lansing. It's one of the 'runner' bamboos. It is top hardy in Michigan to about 10 degrees or so. This Feb has been rough on the standing canes (they are evergreen if it doesn't get too cold). Full height is about 6 to 8 feet but I'm not sure it will get that tall in Michigan. Clums may lose their leaves in very cold weather but will re-leaf in the spring. Clums live about three years and then die.
Mine has been in the same place for four years now and finally put up some clums last year that are big enough for arrows. Japanese Arrow Bamboo (PSEUDOSASA JAPONICA ) is a long node, non-branching bamboo that is hollow and lightweight. Cut clums in their second year (so that there is more silica in the walls). The long nodes are nice and there are no branches to take off of the clum (that's where the leaves attach ). This will be the first year I'll be able to use my homegrown Japonica for arrows.
That said, I got 500 4' bamboo stakes ( 5/8") from Ben Meadows in Wisconsin a couple of years ago and have been using them for arrows. They are heavier than arrow bamboo but still make great arrows. They are the same bamboo as sold by the place in Florida.
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The place in Lake Land, Florida, has the bundles of 500, and I believe it is all Tonkin, which has thicker walls than the Japanese arrow boo. It is much tougher. ;)
So that could be why it is heavier. Good for you and your natural supply of arrow shafts! ;) ;D 8) 8) Well it looks , like your search has been rewarded, Lee. ;) ;D Maybe you can get some root stock, and start your own supply also. ;)
Wayne
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Accuatly it is about $50 plus shipping for 4'x 8-10mm Tonkin Bamboo. This stuff is bullet proof and you can sand the nodes down completely, it looks like a carbon when you are through.
Could you post the address up for us? Or pm me with it? Thanx.