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Title: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 05, 2013, 06:16:59 pm
I picked up some veg tan leather scraps from tandy leather. I got em wet and pliable with some hot water, and glued up on to the back of the bow with some tb3. Afterwards I wrapped the leather with some innertube. Now, after it is dry, should I soak it in the watery super glue? I got a bunch of cheap watery super glue that never worked to glue anything together I was thinking of using.

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1131.jpg)

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1132.jpg)
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Bryce on February 05, 2013, 06:37:45 pm
I like to use rawhide. It's waaaaay easier.
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: bubby on February 05, 2013, 06:43:53 pm
I usually glue a stack together and pre shape it some before it goes on the bow, but that's just me, Bub
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: RBLusthaus on February 05, 2013, 06:58:36 pm
I do like Bubby says.  Yes, saturate with super glue.  You can then work it down to shape with a rasp./ 

Russ 
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: PatM on February 05, 2013, 07:56:26 pm
Better to just use the superglue alone to saturate and glue the leather together. I would think the TB layers are going to clash a bit with how solid and uniform your stack of leather will be.
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 06, 2013, 09:34:11 am
I usually glue a stack together and pre shape it some before it goes on the bow, but that's just me, Bub

(slaps self upside the head)
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 06, 2013, 09:35:34 am
I do like Bubby says.  Yes, saturate with super glue.  You can then work it down to shape with a rasp./ 

Russ

So the leather will just soak up all that super glue?
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Pappy on February 06, 2013, 09:39:15 am
Yep it will soak it up and when it dries you can work it with a file to get the shape you want,they turn out pretty cool looking. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Pat B on February 06, 2013, 10:03:22 am
Basically that is it, TMK but like Bubby said I usually glue up the stack and preshape  before glueing it to the bow.   What I'd do now is take a sharp razor and carefully shape the leather so it fits your hand. The top and bottom tapers are the critical areas. Be careful not to damage the back of the bow. Don't use a belt sander to taper the ends while it is on the bow and don't ask how I know.  ;D
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: koan on February 06, 2013, 11:46:34 am
@ Pat.... mistakes are the best teachers. Been there, done that... Belt sanders are the Devil, lol
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Pat B on February 06, 2013, 12:07:21 pm
Yes they are Brian and I tell myself that every time I screw something up on the belt sander.  ;)
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 06, 2013, 02:34:13 pm
Basically that is it, TMK but like Bubby said I usually glue up the stack and preshape  before glueing it to the bow.   What I'd do now is take a sharp razor and carefully shape the leather so it fits your hand. The top and bottom tapers are the critical areas. Be careful not to damage the back of the bow. Don't use a belt sander to taper the ends while it is on the bow and don't ask how I know.  ;D

 ;D Well it is coming along just fine so far, rasping and filing away nicely. Thank you for the tip btw. I'm really liking it, I might end up doing a couple more built up leather handles in the future. I really needed to build up the handle on this particular bow though, as the bow was made from a twisted goofy sort of stave, and the cross section ended up being a crooked oval, if you know what I mean. So with the leather, I think I will be able straighten the cross section out at the handle. I'll post some pictures to show what I mean when I get the bow finished in a bit, it is almost done.
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Pat B on February 06, 2013, 04:20:54 pm
I've made handle risers and tip overlays from leather saturated with super glue. It has a nice grain when it is sanded smooth.
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 10, 2013, 06:47:39 pm
I forgot (or rather, was too lazy,  :)) to post pictures of how the built up leather handle turned out like I said I would, but luckily I screwed the first handle I put on, so here are some pictures.  ;D The blue stuff is ink that came off from the first leather handle. I really like the feel, but it is not super easy to get a great fit for the leather handle. At least for me it is not.

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1152.jpg)

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1148.jpg)

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1151.jpg)\

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1158.jpg)

Heres my crappy cross stitching. It really bothers me when I do the cross stitching all uneven. Sometimes doing these handles with the cross stitching and all can be very frustrating for me. I love how this one turned out though, it feels great in the hand.

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/DSCN1153.jpg)



Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: mwosborn on February 10, 2013, 07:07:22 pm
That turned out great - nicely done!
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Arrowind on February 10, 2013, 07:18:45 pm
Turned out really nice!  Good job!
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 10, 2013, 09:27:58 pm
That turned out great - nicely done!

Turned out really nice!  Good job!

Thank you guys. You can see the handle I screwed up in the background in one of those pics. The lace I used was some deer lace from tandys that was close to bright orange. I wiped it down with a rag with tung oil on it to darken it a bit. I am guessing this will not adversely affect anything?  :o
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: Gaur on February 10, 2013, 09:38:22 pm
looks great
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: rps3 on February 10, 2013, 09:45:56 pm
Your handle looks great. Is that osage with sapwood back?
Title: Re: Ok PatB, am I doing this right?
Post by: toomanyknots on February 10, 2013, 09:58:18 pm
Your handle looks great. Is that osage with sapwood back?

Yup. And thank you.