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Title: when I had nothing
Post by: iowabow on January 27, 2013, 09:39:33 am
When I had nothing .....I joined the military

When I got out I went to art school but could not afford to frame my drawings so I pulled pallets apart for wood and took windows apart for glass.

When I did not have a washer or dryer I picked trash during big trash day and combined 3 to make one good one.

When I had no table saw I bought a 3 dollar circular saw and turned it upside down and bolted to a piece of plywood to cut wood.

When I bought my first house I build a barn from old oak fence planks that were going to be burned in a fire. The post came from a man cutting trees in a valley where a pond was going to be built. I helped him he gave me wood for post

I lost my job that summer and my wife was with child and on bed rest. She was no longer working.  Things looked bad so I went to the paint store and bought the unwanted discount paint so the house would look good because I figured we were going to have to sell it. I needed money so started selling all my stuff on eBay. I was scanning photos in for the images and needed a better camera so I used want little money we had to buy a digital camera. After I sold hundreds of dollars in stuff I figured something important out. I found that the digital images could be projected onto a TV with RCA cable. Now I could teach a class with just a TV and a digital camera. This idea was thousands of dollars cheaper than equipment in the day.

This was how I presented material during interviews and landed me the job I now have.

I think if I had been given everything I would not have the life I have now. If I had not been so poor I would not appreciate the life I now live.
After losing everything I felt beat up.

It may seem strange but I have kept the paper record of what I had to give up. It hurt to lose the first 4x4 I ever owned which was a ford ranger.
Once I got a job and moved to Iowa I thought things would be better. Two years later my wife died.
It is odd how your perspective on things change as you age. 

I now have a good job and great wife and wonderful kids but I try hard to appreciate this life everyday.

If it is worth having work for it!  never give up! Be willing to give it all up for your family and appreciate them everyday. I have had nothing many times it is very humbling. I always appreciate those that gave me a hand up!






Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: iowabow on January 27, 2013, 09:59:36 am
I wrote this post after looking at one of my drawing framed with glass from an old window. It is funny how it takes you back to the day when the glass was cut.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: sadiejane on January 27, 2013, 10:06:20 am
understood-thanks for sharing
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: sonny on January 27, 2013, 10:30:07 am
well said!
thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: TRACY on January 27, 2013, 10:38:24 am
Reflection is good. Very sorry to hear of your loss John.


Tracy
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Wolf Watcher on January 27, 2013, 10:56:16 am
Thanks for the memories!  Thinking back about all the times when life was tough makes me appreciate what we have now.  We were not the generation of the "endowed" so we made do with what we had.  The 40s, 50s, and 60s were tough, but full of opportunities if you were willing to work!  I have been blessed with a life long mate and trying to provide for her has been the reason for thinking life has just been a series of hurdles I have been lucky enough to conquer!  Your message here has made me count my blessings!  A/Ho Joe
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Jimbob on January 27, 2013, 11:28:19 am
Thanks for the inspiration!!! 
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 27, 2013, 04:59:35 pm
I drove away from my first marriage(she ran off with some one else and still got almost everything) in my old jeep with a B&W TV I had to change the channels on with a pair of pliers.

I came away with a different perspective, never end up in that kind of financial shape again and be real choosy when I picked my next wife.

30 years with my new wife, and comfortably retired, I am glad stuck to my game plan.

I lost my job of 30 years when I was 52 but because I had stuck to my guns about my financial  planning through the years I said"to heck with it" and retired instead of seeking a new job.

Wife is going through a bout with stage 4 bladder cancer(everything looks OK for now) and I have a new game plan; never put off what you enjoy doing until tomorrow because there might not be a tomorrow.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: jeffhalfrack on January 27, 2013, 07:13:15 pm
  I'd  walk  the woods  with an  American like  you(or anyone)  any day thanks  for the story,,,,,we  all  need to hear stuff  like this  to  get  us  back  on  the ground!  JeffW
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: seabass on January 27, 2013, 08:47:20 pm
sorry to hear of your loss and hardships.this is a great post.it makes me think of everything i have now.i have had to work hard for all of it.all the young people today should read this.if you work hard,good things will come.thank you for posting this John.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: osage outlaw on January 27, 2013, 09:08:11 pm
Thanks for posting this.  Hard times make you appreciate the things you have.  I went from being 20 years old and single to married with two kids within 1 year.  I had to sell everything I had to get grocery money, my car (69 nova), my new compound bow and targets, guns, speakers, everything.  I didn't realize how good I had it until it was all gone. 
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Pappy on January 28, 2013, 07:44:54 am
Thanks John and others ,nice to look back now and then,don't want to dwell on the past but important to look back. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Frawg on January 28, 2013, 08:51:25 am
Wow, Thank you for that. It was much needed
Matt
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: cracker on January 28, 2013, 09:49:35 am
Boy that takes me back a ways been so broke I had to shoot neighborhood squirrels to have something to eat. Times are better now I just hope everything holds steady. Ron
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: MWirwicki on January 28, 2013, 03:47:30 pm
Hmmm John... Your post came at a good time.  I was pulled out of my last semester of High School (in Michigan) to move to Florida.  Credits were different there, so I was unable to graduate in my intended Senior year, so I quit school.  I was heartbroken.  A few months later I turned 18, I drove my 250 motorcycle from Florida back to Michigan, my original home.  I re-enrolled back to my high school after missing 4 months of school, caught up and graduated on time.

Then on my own and scared, I had absolutely no money.  I worked and made ends meet doing odd jobs, mowing lawns and scrounging for returnable bottles.    That was more than 30 years ago.  I've done pretty well since then but not without ups and downs along the way. 

In the last 5 years or so, I met my beautiful wife Heather, son Dylan.  We recently had a baby, most of you know as Wee-Wicki.  Just last week as everything seemed to be going great, I lost my job of 15 years.  My job was our only income.  Again, I was heartbroken.  Your post came at the perfect time.  It encourages me and helps me to cope with what's to come.  I have skills and the ability to hunt, grow and gather food.  I am scared, but know we'll be okay. 

Thanks John.  I needed this...
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: cracker on January 28, 2013, 06:28:10 pm
Mat I'm very sorry to hear that there are a lot of people around my part of the country that are experiencing the same thing. People who have given they're life to one job and one company. I am the manager here and my phone rings several times a day with people lookng for work. It hurts every time I have to tell a man my age that I have nothing to offer him. Ronnie
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: seabass on January 28, 2013, 07:54:37 pm
Matt,i am so sorry to hear about your job brother.if you need anything,you now how to reach me.i am not a rich man,but i will help you in any way i can.seriously,let me know.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: iowabow on January 28, 2013, 08:04:41 pm
My heart goes out to you and your family. I can said honestly i know how you must be feeling right now. I meet you last summer and you are a very smart man...you will guide your family with your strenght and put it back together.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 28, 2013, 11:03:21 pm
I've met Mr and Mrs Iowabow and their wonderful son.  They are kind beyond words, generous and trusting, and best of all genuine people.  Gold ore is worthless until it is drawn thru a fire to refine it, to burn off the dross.  Other things when drawn thru the fire burn up and leave bitter and caustic ash.  With us people, it depends on where our hearts lie and where we put our efforts.  John's heart was good and he came out of this like Job in the Old Testament, blessed.

LIke him, I've seen my share of misery.  I lived in the oil patch in North Dakota when it went bust.  I was out of work, 19 yrs old, no skills, and nothing to make me stand out in an area with 25% unemployment.  I dumpster dived and ate other people's trash, seasoned with a large dose of humility.  Oddly, I am proud of making rent every month and keeping alive despite what I had to do to make it.  I didn't turn to crime or whine about how unfair it was.  I knew it was fair. 

Since then I have worn custom tailored suits and have been reduced to eating wild game and foraging for native plants to stay alive.  It's all the same to me.  Heck, I think I am one of the luckiest people in the world because I had 5 dreams when I was a kid in high school.  I have acheived 4 of those dreams.  All that is left is to go to Antarctica. 

Iowabow, I consider you to be someone I could do well to emulate.  I love the way you gently encourage and inspire. 

Mr Wirwicki, I believe in you.  Anyone that makes bows like you do has the grit and gumption to stick to it.  Anyone that hires you is lucky to have you.  Mr. Krewson, bonus points to you for sticking by your wofe for 30 years and seeing her thru this cancer. 

Thank you everyone, for your friendship and your inspiration.  Adversity allows us to show our best character.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: tattoo dave on January 28, 2013, 11:40:33 pm
Well said Matt. I've been there too. Actually, when I had nothin...no money to replace my broken bow. I figured out how to make my own! ;D  I went to art school as well, seems that label of "starving artist" is fairly accurate.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 28, 2013, 11:40:46 pm
So sorry to hear that Matt, especially cause of all the small things you have sent to help me over the past two years... If you need anything man let me know.

Jon
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Gus on January 29, 2013, 01:33:52 am
This is a Powerful and Inspiring Thread.

-gus
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: stringstretcher on January 29, 2013, 06:13:35 am
Sorry to hear this Matt.  Knowing you, you will survive and conquer.  My best to you and the family, and if you need me, you know how to reach me.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: crooketarrow on January 29, 2013, 08:55:15 am
  I seams I'm still there most the time. I've been places and saw lots of peoples suffering,dieing. Aswell as made a good life for me and my farmily. But I'm been where money was not a problem. But in 06 I had 2 strokes that totally changed my out look on life. Also as said as you get older your no so invenceable and you slow dow. Or like me chose to slow down.
  I lived through my strokes (very lucky) could'nt talk and was in a wheel chair for a year. Could'nt did'nt hunt for 2 years. But faught my way back to  what the doc.says is 90 %. It's 100% to me. W
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: crooketarrow on January 29, 2013, 09:09:56 am
  Were poor my mosts standards but I've chose the slower simpler life. I told my boys if you don't like the ways we live when you get old enough move on. I mom and dad never put a stop to me ever growing up. I always let my boys have freedom they wanted as long as no one got hunt. Or I saw the were doing anything stupit. No better teacher than exsperance.
  My whole life I've lived it the ways I wanted to. Not many peopole can say they've none this. I quess my decline stated long before I had strokes in 06. Clear back to 22 years ago when I made my first bow. I did'nt know then the trail building a selfbow would lead me down. I've molded my life around bows, gogglers amd bucks.
 And like I said I'm poor my manys to others standers but rich in my eyes.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 29, 2013, 10:56:51 am
Iowabow !
When I began to read this I thought this fellow has to be related to me !
Thanks for taking the time to write this is will be a blessing in itself !
It takes some fire to bring the best in us to the surface that is for sure !
Good folks like those on this forum, give us all ,the encouragement to do better !

Matt
I am here for you If there is anything I can do !
Please make sure that I get a chance to give Miss Heather a hug this weekend !
If there is anything I can bring you let me know !
Thanks to all on this forum for being my Friend!!!
Guy
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Wolf Watcher on January 29, 2013, 09:33:19 pm
At this stage in my life it seems I have become quite the philosopher.  One thing I do know for sure is there are millions of people that have had a much rougher life than I have known.  My younger brother was in a truck wreck while working on a Pipeline in Oregon when he was 16.  He had been the captain of his football team and held the state class B record for the 100 yrd dash.  He lost his leg above the knee, had his chest and shoulder crushed, and his good ankle was also crushed.  His life has been so full of pain and yet he never complains.  I snivel about having a cold for a few days.  He is retired now after becoming a pulse arc welder whee he could stand next to a turning device so he could stand by it and weld.  Another person I know, Tyler Huston, had a pacemaker implanted when he was 5 years old.  He grew up with a bow in his hand and has become one of the very best primitive bow hunters I know.  He has had several close calls with his heart and now faces another implant surgery.  I understand the placement of the leads for the pacemaker is a much more serious operation than the implant itself!  He will be operated on either the 11Th or 24Th of this month.  I am told this is the most dangerous operation he has had to date.  Some people just have it tougher than most of us.  I plan to smoke my pipe and ask for his safety. So when I think I have been dealt a bad hand, all I have to do is look around.  How about you?  A/Ho Joe
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 30, 2013, 02:07:56 am
Wow!  I have so much in common with all of you guys.Wont go into my story but its very similar to most of you.
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: Bone pile on January 30, 2013, 12:55:37 pm
School of hard knocks ,seems to be were alot of us attended.I was on my own young and hit the road with my thumb out and a pack on my back. I tell my son now when he talks about the homeless that I was without a home for a few years. I wouldn't trade most of it ,learned alot about life. All the best to yall
Bone pile
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: YosemiteBen on January 30, 2013, 01:40:11 pm
Thank you all for your words these past few days.  I have not been to the same places where many of you have been. I do continue to find myself in some tight spots. My son on the other hand has been in many of those places since he was 13. Now he is 26 with two kids - no car, no job and no prospects.  He has reached a point where he just wants to "bounce out" and abandon his kids to the state so he can go find himself.  So - there does exist a possibility that my wife and I and our son will take on these two small people so that they do not end up in a house where they may not be loved. That did happen when child welfare Services first got involved.  For my son there is no ownership of his responsibilities and it is always someone elses fault.  Soooo.... what wil life bring to us? I suppose time will tell.
Thanks again for all of you here and your stories of perserverance.
Ben
Title: Re: when I had nothing
Post by: lostarrow on January 30, 2013, 09:54:27 pm
I don't have a penny to my name, but am the richest man in the world! When things seem the worst, all I can do is laugh ......... sounds odd ,but all I can think of is things can only get better .Like you , I'm just enjoying what I have while I have it , and not wanting for more than I need. Thanks for sharing !