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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: tgtmatt on January 18, 2013, 04:03:20 am
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I just followed a red oak bow pyramid build to try it out, and tweaked it a little. I built it pretty fast and I'm just curious on what you guys have to say. What should I do about the handle? I might glue a riser on and then thin it down in the middle 4". Any ideas?
It is 68" ttt, I just got it pulling 45@28
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Looks good to me.
IMO the only reason to narrow a grip is to improve arrow flight or compfort.
The only reason to glue on a riser is to stop the bow snapping at the narrowed grip.
Just go with your heart.
Have a read of this blog entry, where I do exactly that on a Hazel bow.
http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2012_08_01_archive.html (http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2012_08_01_archive.html)
Del
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I think it's good too, look's like your hand go's around it easy, i'd shoot it as is, Bub
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Nice job,I would probably glue a handle on if it was mine,it is fine like it is but if I was going to shoot it I would probably build up the handle some.I sometimes glue up leather strips and then work it down when it dries. Thats just me,I don't really care for the flat grip,either way very nice work.Tiller looks veryy good. :)
Pappy
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So I got a little impatient last night waiting to see what everyone had to say and just went with my best thought. I decided to round the handle and make it more comfortable. It is pretty much bending a little through the handle. I'm afraid if I glue a rise on it wont stick with the glue because of the bend. Any ideas for a good beautiful backing? I'm making this for my dad for his birthday which is Tuesday and I really want it to look like all the beauties I see on here.
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Personally I would not back it with anything, I would stain it and put several coats of Polyurethane or Tru Oil on it. Then a nice handle wrap and call it finished. Red Oak has beautiful grain and would look nice stained and sealed.
Grady
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Okay, What is everyones favorite stain color? I have a bunch of different ones. And do you think I should glue a riser on for safety?
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take some scrap from the bow sand it good and try different stains till you find one you like, make shure you put your sealer on the test as well cause it will make a difference in the finish, Bub
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I didn't glue on a riser on my red oak pyramid and i regretted it. Glue it up bro.
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I really don't like not having a close to center shot bow, but that is probably because the arrows I have now are not spined as good as they should be. I think I'm going to glue up a riser, should i put it on the front or back?
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if it's bending in the handle, and buy the pics it is, a glued on riser will most liklly pop off, do like pappy said and glue on some several strips if leather and shape your grip, this works great,you can also use cork
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I think I may use some cork. I just shaved it down more the handle because it wasn't to comfy and I'm happy about it. We'll see how it works out. Where can I get some cork? I've seen it online but I want to see if I can get it around here because I'm trying to complete the bow before tuesday.
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go to your local crafts store, they should have sheets of cork
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Thank you, I'll post the bow when it's all finished to see what you guys think. If it's worthy for a gift
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Dude you built it from scratch, your dad will love, trust me
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So I got a little impatient last night waiting to see what everyone had to say and just went with my best thought. I decided to round the handle and make it more comfortable. It is pretty much bending a little through the handle. I'm afraid if I glue a rise on it wont stick with the glue because of the bend. Any ideas for a good beautiful backing? I'm making this for my dad for his birthday which is Tuesday and I really want it to look like all the beauties I see on here.
That's double think worthy of a marketting executive!
"It's bending... so I'll stick on a riser to stop it bending...but it will bend and pop off the riser"
NO! Stopit! Go and sit on the naughty step and think it through!
If you glue a decent riser on properly (with decent preparation and using a decent glue, like you would if you were splicing two billets), it won't bend, and so it won't pop off.
Del
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so what ya got against building it up with leather del, got a burr under your fur? >:D
didn't say it WOULD pop off, but that it liklly would, the leather or cork will allow it to bend with no problems and it look's nice
the only way I've added a riser after the build is by laming thin strips together
there is more than one way to skin a...well you get my drift :laugh:
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I know he wants a crossbow and I'm just trying to figure that out myself still so I'm working on it. (haven't even started). I will make one and I can't wait until I do. The hardest part will be hiding it from him so he doesn't know i'm making one:P. I'm stuck in between adding a riser and not adding one. I thinned the handle down to only 1inch wide for about 4 inches, then it fades out 2 inches to about a width of 1-1.5. I'm going to run up to the craft store tomorrow to get wool for silencers, some cork, and hopefully some new types of lumber at my local hardwood suppliers. I'm trying to start on new designs/wood. I love making the bows so much that I barely get to finish the one I began before. Anyone else have the same problem? I'm sure i'm not alone on that one.
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so what ya got against building it up with leather del, got a burr under your fur? >:D
didn't say it WOULD pop off, but that it liklly would, the leather or cork will allow it to bend with no problems and it look's nice
the only way I've added a riser after the build is by laming thin strips together
there is more than one way to skin a...well you get my drift :laugh:
Yeah, you're right... I just realised I was talking out of my backside :-[
I have nothing against a leather backing build up.
It's just that if you narrow down too much without a riser then obviously it can become a weakspot.
A riser can be solid and unflexing or it can be a relatively thin lam which does allow flexing, but prevents the grip being a weak spot.
What I should said was... it's all about the prep and the gluing, do it right and you'll be ok.
So, other than being completely wrong... I was spot on >:D
Del
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that's cool Del, a lot of us suffer from indecision as the bow gets built, should I skin it, paint it, bangles and beads, sometimes we forget the beauty of the wood and a great tiller
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YOu can build up the handle with leather but if you glue on a piece of wood it will pop off. You handle is bending. Leave it alone and enjoy it. Tiller is excellent. Jawge
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Thanks guys, I just recieved arrows from mullet in the mail too:) I'm going to go test them out on the new bow!
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Anyone have pictures of a bow with glued on leather handles? I shot about 100 arrows through it today at my dad's "unofficial" birthday dinner and it shot so beautiful. It's my favorite shooting bow so far. (He has no idea it is for him). I told him I'm buying him something tomorrow and he bought it. I Just finished sanding it down with 1000 grit paper and rounding all the corners, etc. Now idk if I should just add a leather wrapping or build up the handle with leather first. Any ideas?
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used a leather handle on this bowhttp://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,26484.45.html