Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: akila on January 16, 2013, 01:53:36 pm
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Hello guys...i have this piece of yew, wich is pretty weird...i have some ideea aboute whatt i would try to do with it....i wass thinking aboute trying to bend the other tip, to make it recurve, like the one wich is already natural bend...to make some kind of static recurve....the yew piece, is 66" long....somewhere in the midle area it has some big knots, and i wass thinking to make the handle in that area...im worried a little aboute another knot...its somewhere arround mid limb..its not verrry big, i hope that i can evoid it...but i dont know yew...i will put some pictures...the widh of the yew stave is aboute 4cm or 1,1/2 inch wide.....at some places it is 2" wide....i wass curriose to know, whatt would u do with this piece of yew...:)...i dont know iff i will manage to bend the other tip, to mach the one wich is already natural recurve...but for the moment i dont see whatt els i could do with this stave...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160054_zps62a61806.jpg)
This is the handle area...im lucky, becose it will be right in the midle of the stave, after i bend the straight tip..
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160055_zpsc2dffce8.jpg)
This is the straight tip, that i should try to bend it...it has some small knots arrounde there...i hope it will be ok...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160056_zpsbcb33261.jpg)
Here is the back of the stave...view from handle thowards the recurve tip...this part of the back is clean...with no knots...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160057_zps8940587f.jpg)
This is the other part of the back...view from handle thowards the straight tip...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160058_zps9fc4f311.jpg)
This is that small knot, i wass talking aboute...it is right in the mid limb, somewhere arrounde 1" away from the back...maybe i will gett pass him...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160060_zpsf4c58381.jpg)
Here is the widh of the stave...
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if you cut off that kink you can sinew back it as a shorter bow and make a nice little shortbow with high draw
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I don't know Yew from pickles and jelly, ...but, What about cutting the natural kink off and carving it into a pair of naturally bent Siyahs. I notice it is the thicker end of the stave. Perhaps you could carve one Siyah out double thick plus a bit, then cut it down the middle to make two. V-splice one back into each end the rest of the stave. Ambitious? Maybe. Heck I don't know yew, remember?
Onebow
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mmmm....and to leave it reflex ?....:)....the problemm is that, i dont have acces to sinew...i do have some sinew, but i wass save it for special projects...:)....i want to make for a long time, an asiatic bow, with bamboo belly, and sinew backing...thks for your advise...i will wait and see whatt others will replay, and i will decide, whatt to do...thks alot...and that knot from the middle is realy big...i dont know, iff the belly, will survive to that knot...i know yew is pretty strong stuff, but, i dont know..thks again...im waiting for some moore replays..
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Hehe..yess its ambitious...i wass thinking aboute making 2 syiah from that recurve end...the stave is pretty thick, and wide there, but to be honest i realy hate making the V splices....:)))...i did that to some bow's and its realy tricky to do it using only hand tools...well, iff wi talk aboute ataching syiahs, its not necesaraly need to be done using V splice...i could use a moore easey metodh to do it...thks for your advice...i will give it a thaught...:)
PS...and the problemm is, that iff im cutting that kink down, with some curve in it to look like already bend syiah, i will have a shorter limb...the distance, from the remaining tip,. to that big knot in the middle, will be much smaller, thenn it is now, and i dont know iff its such a good ideea...whenn u glue syiah, u loose a big portion of the working limb.. :-\
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We need and end view to see how much heart wood there is to play with.
It's pretty skinny.
If there are big knots they need to be at the grip, which then determines if you can loose the kink or have to live with it.
Yew is fine for heat bending, but I'd make the bow so that kink is a big reflex tip which can either be straightened a tad or matched at the other end.
I'd just chop away the belly side and go for a primitive stick bow, not enough wood for anything much else IMO.
Del
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Leave the kink in as a natural recurve and don't do anything to the other end making it an asymmetric bow. I think that would be so cool and fun to make.
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It crazy how much that bark looks like Crepe Myrtle.
Gabe
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Lose or use the kink as a recurve(that would look cool)
That's a good stave.
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Thks alot guys...i decided to leave the kink, and use it as a recurve...i already worked the stave, and give it some shape...i will try to have some kind of a handle in the middle area where the knot is...it will be small handle....just to make it slightly rigid in the midle....the other tip, is right now put over a boiling pot, to be steamed...i hope it will not crack on me...the wood is still a little wet, so after i bend the tip, i will have to leave this one, for a while to dry a little...thks for all your replays..i will keep you posted, and tell you how this will end...:)
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I would trade it for some osage. Hey, you asked!
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pearl wants another go at yew ::)
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i would try an asymmetrical bow
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Hahaha...yess, it would have been realy interesting to leave it like this, to make an asymetrical bow...but, mmmm...that deflex, wass pretty big..i dont know how fast it would have been in the end....welll, will see, iff i can make a bow out of this piece of yew...finger crossed...:)
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.....to make some kind of static recurve....the yew piece, is 66" long....somewhere in the midle area it has some big knots,
By the time you cut it just before that thank less bend, what lenght is it going to be.?
I think it would be to short.
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Deflex isn't bad.
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I didnt cut it....i only steam bend the other tip, to mach the one wich is already bend....right now it has some sort of R/D shape, with the tips being realy reflexed...i think its to much reflex right now iin the tips, maybe i will have to cut 2" from each tip...i will see....here is some new photos..
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P11600582_zpscb618bcc.jpg)
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1160061_zps61002545.jpg)
Here is the stave already bend to the form...
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Lookin' good.
Del
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looks good, I love the knot in the handle that will be pretty.
Grady
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That is looking good Akila. I would seal that back up real good if it was still green. Those whole branches can hold a lot of moisture under that bark, and it seems they dry into deflex when roughed out.
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I did not remove the bark of the back yet.....the branch wass kinda medium dry....anyway, i will leave it alone for a while, to dry , and i will put pictures, whenn im starting to work on it...:)
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Hello guys...today i finished the bow...and here are the pictures...the bow ended up being 38lbs @ 29"..its 60" long ntn along the curves...it wass realy funn to build this bow...to be honest i didnt think it will survive....the saap wod has a realy weir colore in a fiew places, i also have a small hall in one limb, but, the bow is still intact..:)..here are the pictures..
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nice job, love the full draw, Bub
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Sweet!!!
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It actually kind of looks like an over-sized horsebow to me! That thing is awesome, bet it will chuck an arrow like a rocket! :)
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That is one heck of a bow sir. Man! That is some hard core bendin too.
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Considering what you started with that is a very impressive bow. You did that yew justice in every way. Congratulations
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WOW! When I saw what you started with I really didn't think it would work. NICE JOB! NICE BOW!
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Nice work with a tough stave! how much heartwood do you have left on those working limbs? It's hard to tell from the pictures.
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Turned out very nice.. 8)
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Very Nice. You did that stick justice. Love the color and the tips
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Nice bow Akila. She looks like one of Akila's bows. 8) The shape of the handle and the grain configuration are as sexy as it gets. Very cool bow.
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spectacular
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Cool beans :o
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Wow!! That is a sweet-looking, hard-working, piece of nasty goodness. 8) I bet it shoots too! Nicely done sir.
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you did a great job with that piece of wood well done.
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Thanks alot for your compliments...whatt is interesting aboute this bow, is that, i manage to tiller this bow, in 20 minutes...i did som floor tillering first, and try to make the entire limb of the bow do a little bend, and whenn i put it to the tiller tree, the bottomb limb wass done, and the top limb, i had to do a little scraping , and it wass done in 20 minutes...i wass realyy happy with that...:)....the ratio between heart wood, and saap wood, is arrounde 50-50....aniway, its realy a weird piece of yew, becose at one end, there is no clear separation, between saap wood and heart wood...it seam to be only heart wood, and some kind of saap wood ...but it dosent have that wite clear colore...its kinda between...wite, and brown...a combination or something like that...probably becose the diameter of the branch, wass kinda small...
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x212/Akila_07/P1240086_zpsf0265ed1.jpg)
Here is one of the tips that i wass talking aboute...here u can see better ....there is no clear definition of saap wood....it looks like there is only heart wood... i think there is still enugh heart wood on those limbs ....and aniway, the bow is a light bow...its not verry powerfull....i dont know, iff it would have been ok, iff it where to be 50lbs or so...
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Great bow. You did that yew justice for sure.
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Brilliant job with that stick.
Primitive bow making at it's best.
Well done that man, I award you one of my finest mice.. ok it's been chewed and played with a bit :-[
Del
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well done, very cool, just curious whats your brace height?
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Thank you all for your nice words...the brace its a little bigger, thenn usual...becose of the shape, of those rigid "siyah's", the string wass sliping to one side...so, this is why, the brace its a little bigger...its 1" above my tumb..
PS...Del..whatt is that "mice" that u are talking aboute??..:))...sorry, my english is not so great..
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I believe he is joking. His name is Del the CAT. He awarded you one of his mice........cat.........mouse.......get it?? :o
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Splendid job on a difficult piece. When I started reading the post I was thinking " take the reflexed end off and make its shorter and wider" but then I kept reading through and you produced a really nice recurve outta that piece. even though its low weight its still an exceptional bow. That yew sure is pretty finished up. I may have to get to that one piece I have and see what I can do with it. Danny
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:o stunning work from that stick! I would have made something or resembling a golf club or shillelagh then burnt it!
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Oh, sweet. Nothing like getting a bow out of a scrap piece. 8)
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Thank you all...yew is realy an amaizing wood, i could not done it withoute the help of this amaizing wood....i respect nature, and i always try to use all i can ....thats why, i never throw up a piece of wood...even iff its shorter, or anithing els..i always find something to do with it...but for yew, i have a realy deep respect, becose its so hard to find...and im realy happy , for this bow...:)...this is my second yew bow, and also made from a dificult piece...i have another yew long bow...it wass also made from a branch, and as i keep tiller that bow, it always wanted to split, in the middle, becose of that internal, soft merrow...and whatt i did, wass to wrap the bow, from 10" to 10" with hemp cord, so that will not broke...and i ended having a functional bow...i didnt want to give up on him..:)...soon i will start working on another piece of yew, wich will be also verry dificult...its full with knots...this time, i will try to make a long bow...i will leave it pretty long..190cm long, and i will see iff i can make a bow out of that piece, and i will keep u posted...thanks alot for all your compliments...im happy to be active here again...i realy love this place..i always learn something new, waching you guys...so, good luck all of you ..wish u all the best.
PS...Marks..thanks ...yeah."mice"..how stupid of me..it wass so easey...i didnt think of that..hahahah :)))
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wow that bow turned out pretty awsome! i challenge you to make a bow from apine and any other wood it can be any kind (longbow, shortbow, recurve ect.) if you can you will be a master bowyer. i am making a bow from a christmas tree at the moment., it wont be easy. again awsome looking bow!
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I have made bows from other wood also...ash, hornbeam, cornus mas, black-locust, all bamboo bow, laminate bow, massaranduba and boo, etc...but i dont consider my self being a master....i dont have acces to pine wood, but im sure, that iff u choose your design corectly, it can be possibile to make a bow out of that...thks for your compliments...good luck with your project.
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thanks.