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Title: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: Squirrelslayer on January 05, 2013, 08:32:28 pm

any of you guys ever made a bow from an ash or white oak board im thinking of doing one so anyone got pics. maybe some while it was being made? i want to get a good idea of what a good ash or white oak board bow looks like

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: blackhawk on January 05, 2013, 08:37:19 pm

Did you run a search first? I'm sure you'll find plenty ....

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: autologus on January 05, 2013, 09:09:18 pm

I'm just about finished with a nice little bendy handle D bow from an ash wheelbarrow handle. I works very well.

Grady

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: bubby on January 05, 2013, 10:00:32 pm

 here's one  http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,32928.0.html

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: kevinsmith5 on January 05, 2013, 10:11:45 pm

Bubby, how'd you do the recurves? Steam? Glued in?

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: lesken2011 on January 05, 2013, 11:42:23 pm

Here is a linen backed white oak and a rawhide backed, skinned white oak I recently made.

(http://traditionalbowman.com/hwdphotos/uploads/62/2/jxm5m7kpcx2qyi.jpg)

(http://traditionalbowman.com/hwdphotos/uploads/62/2/bkkkiojbtyqavc.jpg)

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: toomanyknots on January 05, 2013, 11:55:46 pm

While we are on the subject of white oak, what would be better, a

- white old backed hickory elb, or a
- white oak backed white oak elb, or a
- white oak purple heart hickory elb triple lam, or a
- white oak purple heart white oak elb triple lam?

I guess I am asking which is better in compression, white oak or hickory. I actually hear hickory can be pretty weak in compression, but than again I have seen alot of hickory warbows, so I really have no idea what to think. Also, what about a white oak backed yellowheart?   

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2013, 12:25:02 am

kevin I steamed them and then used dry heat to set it in
toomany a white oak air backed or a wo backed epe or wo purpleheart and maple

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: rossfactor on January 06, 2013, 01:02:41 am

Posted this a few years ago. Silk backed eastern Ash.  47# @28"

Ash is one of the easiest woods to move with steam.  Responds very well to dry heat as well IMO.

Gabe

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/IMG_1347.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/IMG_1338.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/IMG_1323.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/rossfactor/IMG_1332.jpg)

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: Squirrelslayer on January 06, 2013, 06:31:59 am

thanks guys theese pics really helped i think ill make an ash recurve like the one in the above post. hey gabe do you remember any dimensions or what you backed it with. you can send me pm if you want.

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: tgtmatt on January 09, 2013, 10:29:32 pm

If you PMed slayer can you let me know what the dimensions were? I'm going to try and find some ash boards to make a bow also.

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 09, 2013, 11:47:07 pm

I am not a fan of ash but oak and ash will make a nice bow. Always choose straight grained stock. More on my site. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: Carson (CMB) on January 10, 2013, 04:55:12 am

SquirrelSlayer, Go for a rectangular cross-section or trapped backed rectangular if you use ash. 

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: danny f on January 20, 2013, 08:18:34 am

heres one i just finished its on another thread, i thought id put it here if you didnt see it. its an ash board. 55# @25"
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/dfee82/P1050027.jpg)
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/dfee82/P1050023-1.jpg)
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/dfee82/P1050032.jpg)

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: tattoo dave on January 20, 2013, 11:11:05 am

Ash is great. Here is a 56" bow I made from an ash board.

Tattoo Dave

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: Matt Heppe on January 20, 2013, 11:36:25 am

Here's a 42# ash longbow I made from a 3" x 3" post. I found Ash very easy to work with.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,34764.0.html (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,34764.0.html)

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: WillS on January 20, 2013, 01:57:03 pm

Lovely clean looking bow there, Matt.  I've got tonnes of ash to play with but whenever I try making ELB type bows with it, it just chrysals like mad.  Did you trap the back on that one? Also, what sort of profile did you use on the belly? Deep D like a yew longbow, or more rectangular with rounded edges?

Title: Re: ash or white oak board bows. lets see some pics
Post by: Matt Heppe on January 22, 2013, 05:00:44 pm

WillS,

I did trap the back, although not severely.

The belly is not a traditional ELB D-shape. It is a flat belly with very rounded off edges.

It took some set, but I had originally planned on a heavier draw weight and probably induced some set while tillering at a heavier weight than the final draw.

Best,
Matt