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Title: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: toomanyknots on January 01, 2013, 08:26:05 pm
I was watching a bbc except of a show on youtube recently, where Richard Head was giving an archery demo with some of his bows, and he said something that caught my ear. He said that the longbow is called a longbow because it is shot longways, and not crossways, like a cross bow? Is this true? I never knew that. I guess I always figured that it was called a longbow because compared to other bows, it was longer. But that makes sense, as back in the day, there wasn't any other bows to compare a longbow to,  ;D.
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Adam on January 01, 2013, 08:27:22 pm
Hmmm.  That's interesting.  I always thought it was due to they're longer length too.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Roy on January 01, 2013, 09:58:13 pm
Which Richard Head was it? I know several of them:)
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: soy on January 01, 2013, 10:01:39 pm
Which Richard Head was it? I know several of them:)
>:D me to ;D


Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Dane on January 01, 2013, 11:19:49 pm
I think his good friends call him Dick Head. Of course.
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: toomanyknots on January 01, 2013, 11:24:37 pm
I think his good friends call him Dick Head. Of course.

...Ok, now I get the joke,  ;D. Took me a minute, lol.

EDIT: Here is the video clip I was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COpXfXjMPJU
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Shaun on January 02, 2013, 12:14:40 am
There were short bows in medieval times. Used for closer fighting/hunting and not capable of shooting yard long heavy arrows and piercing armor like the long bows of the English army 
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: BillBow on January 12, 2013, 08:03:27 am
Hmmmm,
Maybe he would call a Flatbow one owned by someone living in a Flat.
That is as daft as Toxophilus and others saying a Longbowman was always expected to "hit his man" at 250 yards.
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Hrothgar on January 12, 2013, 10:34:51 am
And the Holmegaard was so named because it 'protected the home'... ;D
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Prignitzer bowman on January 12, 2013, 01:30:40 pm
A well known historian recently told me that a recurve was called a recurve because the arrow would come back to the archer once shot! (It wasn't called a boomerang bow because the Vikings hadn't discovered Australia yet)

Peter
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: sleek on January 12, 2013, 01:37:11 pm
We are laughing with some good jokes here, but honestly, I can see the logic behind his conclusion, and would hope he didnt just come up with the idea on his own and broadcast it without research..... Doesnt mean he didnt though....
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: toomanyknots on January 12, 2013, 02:01:12 pm
"The term "longbow" is coined ca. 1500 in reference to the English longbow, to distinguish the simple self bow from the shorter composite bow. In medieval times in Britain the weapon was usually known as a "hand" or a "lug" bow, distinguishing it from the crossbow."

Quoted this from a wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longbow

EDIT: Also, this:

"The first recorded use of the term 'longbow', as distinct from simply 'bow', occurs in a Paston Letter of the 15th century."


Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: sleek on January 12, 2013, 02:05:10 pm
So long bow is more of a modern term.
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: toomanyknots on January 12, 2013, 02:08:39 pm
And the quote from the Paston letters:

"RYT wurchipful hwsbond, I recomawnd me to ʒu, and prey ʒw to gete som crosse bowis, and wyndacs2 to bynd them with, and quarrels;3 for ʒour hwsis her ben so low that ther may non man schet owt with no long bowe, thow we hadde never so moche nede."


Or, translated to modern english:

"Right worshipful husband, I recommend me to you, and pray you to get some crossbows and windlasses to bind them with, and crossbow bolts; for your houses here are so low that there may no man shoot out with a longbow, though we had never so much need."

Link: http://www.luminarium.org/medlit/paston1449.htm

EDIT: Opps, I mis-qouted the top quote at first due to sloppy copy/paste-ing, fixed it now though.
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: sleek on January 12, 2013, 02:29:58 pm
Ceiling was so low that you couldnt hold a bow Long ways huh?
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 12, 2013, 02:57:24 pm
Maybe it would be better to call longbows "high bows" since length is measured on the horizontal rather than the vertical.

Example:  A 6 ft tall man is measured by his height, a 6 ft snake is measured by it's length. 

Right?
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: sleek on January 12, 2013, 03:35:17 pm
JW.... you always crack me up. How far is the closest peyote bush from your water well?
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 12, 2013, 04:20:10 pm
Thousand miles or so.  This is all natural. 

I don't like to think before I speak.  I like to be as surprised as the rest of you by what comes outa my mouth.    :o
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: toomanyknots on January 12, 2013, 05:20:59 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Del the cat on January 12, 2013, 05:50:53 pm
Surely the opposite of a cross bow >:(
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Is a happy bow  :)
Del
Title: Re: Richard Heads explanation of why the longbow is called the longbow...
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 12, 2013, 09:38:04 pm
Thousand miles or so.  This is all natural. 

I don't like to think before I speak.  I like to be as surprised as the rest of you by what comes outa my mouth.    :o

Haha I think you and one of my friends would get along great. That just described him to the T.

Jon