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Title: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 20, 2012, 10:11:00 pm
I have a hickory bow that i was working on over at Bryce's place. We turned it out in basically 6 hrs from stave to almost full draw. During tillering i had heard a sickening tick, later when i got back and pulled it to full draw i heard it again... When i inspected the limbs i found a splinter lifting on the back of the bow and continues over to the side of the bow. The splinter is only about 1.5 inches as far as i can see. My question is, can i fix this by filling the crack with superglue and then using sinew to wrap it up tight?
If i do this would i just wet the sinew and wrap? or would there be some kind of glue needed? I know this bad boy is a shooter for sure, just need to avoid breaking it. It will be about 45 lbs when done with sanding and the like.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2012, 10:27:48 pm
i would superglue the crack then sinew soaked in knox gelatin mixed with warm water.good luck brother.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 20, 2012, 10:29:19 pm
sounds like a plan, ill do that tomorrow and hopefully i can still keep it! any idea as to the length of time it needs to dry?
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2012, 10:39:07 pm
it should dry over night.the sinew won't be too thick.mix your knox with warm not boiling water.i try to mix it a little on the thick side.a little thinner than syrup.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 20, 2012, 10:40:22 pm
ok. thanks! i think i will actually do it now...
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2012, 10:47:09 pm
i have faith in you.you will do fine.use thin super glue so in gets down in there.use the thin runny stuff,not that thick gel.you want it to flow down in the crack.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 20, 2012, 10:53:09 pm
alright, just superglued it, now time to let it dry, then sand the edges nice and round(they are sharp) Then apply the sinew!
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2012, 10:58:24 pm
get rid of all sharp corners.they are how you get splinters.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 20, 2012, 10:59:30 pm
yeah. might have figured as much. Either way it looks sturdy even though it has a splinter.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 20, 2012, 11:03:24 pm
i am sure it will turn out fine after the glue and sinew.get pics when you can,i would like to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: Bryce on December 21, 2012, 03:28:07 am
i would superglue the crack then sinew soaked in knox gelatin mixed with warm water.good luck brother.

Exactly what I pm'd him earlier today lol

The stave had some waving grain with some run offs. Good strong wood though.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 21, 2012, 02:29:54 pm
Just finished wrapping the superglue filled crack with sinew.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: Bryce on December 21, 2012, 02:44:55 pm
Pics? Lets see the repair job :)
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 21, 2012, 03:36:13 pm
alright, here is the repair i did, the crack was barely visible before i put the sinew on.

The second one is to clarify where the crack is
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: seabass on December 21, 2012, 04:06:47 pm
i knew you could do it.nice save brother.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: Bryce on December 21, 2012, 04:21:56 pm
That should do it.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 21, 2012, 04:29:46 pm
now to let it dry  ::) if i can find my feathers i could make some arrows...
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side.
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 22, 2012, 11:14:57 pm
Alright, the sinew has dried and is holding the crack rock solid. I just put TB II on the sinew to waterproof it. Tomorrow i plan to shoot it in and check tiller. I swear though, the weight just went up on this bow...  :o
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 22, 2012, 11:26:38 pm
That should work. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: Bryce on December 23, 2012, 04:20:06 am
Did you sinew the whole back!? Then the weight would go up.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 01:12:08 pm
nah i didnt, just that part. Still, i swear its like 55 lbs now! anyway, here is a pic of a thread wrapping i did to cover up the fix
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: Bryce on December 23, 2012, 02:08:10 pm
We call those character marks :)

Lets see the full draw.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 02:31:05 pm
FD pics in like 3-4 hrs.  :P
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: Gordon on December 23, 2012, 03:28:25 pm
That works - your fix is actually stronger than the rest of the bow.
Title: Re: Hickory bow splinter back and side. (Fix Applied)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 05:51:40 pm
Alright, full draw pics and brace profile.
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: Weylin on December 23, 2012, 07:33:45 pm
Looks good from here! Nice bow and nice save. You're getting the hang of this.  8)
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 07:46:10 pm
Credit to the teacher~Bryce   
Thanks Weylin
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: bubby on December 23, 2012, 07:51:39 pm
look's good muffin, now put a wrap on the bottom limb and a small one below the tips to balance it out, nice save, Bub
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: Will H on December 23, 2012, 07:55:47 pm
Looks good! Nice save muffinman ;)
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 07:55:59 pm
Another wrap????? man took me 2 hrs on the last one for just the thread!  :'( if it will improve over all performance and balance of the bow i will do it.
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: Bryce on December 23, 2012, 07:57:09 pm
He means aesthetic balance.
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 23, 2012, 08:01:40 pm
so tempting not to do another  ::) i could hardly believe i had started at 11:30PM and ended at 1AM
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: bubby on December 23, 2012, 08:09:02 pm
He means aesthetic balance.


yeah, to balance out the look's of the bow, just the thread wrap, Bub
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: okie64 on December 23, 2012, 09:00:44 pm
That looks good! Nice save man
Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: Zion on December 24, 2012, 12:21:06 am
Yeah Muffin!! Ya made a stave bow!!!  ;D
Looks great and its good ya saved that bow. I hate it when splinters pop up. Looks like ya handled it right. Nice tiller!

Now work to get your private collection growing!!  8)


Title: Re: Hickory splinter fixed (FD pics posted)
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 24, 2012, 04:04:28 pm
Small update on the bow. I just finished shooting it in, and let me tell you, it shoots like a dream! for the first three rounds 5/6 were on the target(a small 1ft by 1.5 ft box) after those first rounds my accuracy dropped off as i tried to aim  ::) checked tiller and its the same, what a champ!