Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: RyanY on December 17, 2012, 04:11:40 pm
-
Lots of talk about hickory in the past couple days. Here's an example of what a good piece will do. This is the bow I made in an attempt to follow the ambush bow challenge rules. Hickory, 58" ntn and 55#@28" after a 100 shot session. 4" handle with 1" fades, 2" wide at the fades with a convex taper to 3/8" nocks. Bloodwood and hickory overlays. This bow was interesting to make. After floor tillering it only needed minor corrections to get bending evenly and hardly took any set before heat treating. I wasn't happy with the tiller on the tree as it looked different from both sides but it hasn't broken down and looks ok in the pic. Now after 500 shots it retains over 2" of reflex and after a 100 shot session it'll have 1" of reflex after unstringing, very quickly going back to those 2 inches. The pics were taken after the last of those 500 shots. I'm quite impressed with this piece of wood and happy with how the bow came out. I wanted to do something to the wood so it wasn't so bright but haven't thought of a good solution yet and I also need to put a handle wrap on it. Otherwise I think it would make an excellent hunting bow. Let me know what you think. Thanks for looking!
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1707_zpsb98edede.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1709_zps3ec6766b.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1710_zps44d2e398.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1712_zps9b86f319.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1715_zpsc49aeb80.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1716_zpsef22226d.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1714_zpse95e1345.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1713_zps1a3d90e0.jpg)
-
Son of a.......! I don't know if the ambush challenge was a contest but I would have no chance against this bow. It looks like someone fed a 2x4 into a programmed CNC machine and out came the perfect bow. What's more frustrating is that I'm still working on the same bow I started 2 weeks ago and I know you built this in like 2 days?!
Really nice.
-
Straight. 8)
-
Nice bow 8)
-
The tempering is key to the whole sha-bang. Nice work Sparty.
-
Hickory
The king ?!!!!
Good job and certainly so for a Michigander !!
Have fun and Merry Christmas !!
Guy
-
That is how it's done, glad I got to see this bow.
What do you use to keep your hickory dry during humid times of the year?
-
Looks like it wood make a very nice hunting bow. Nice work Ryan.
-
Thanks for the kind words guys!
Steve b., I told myself I would shoot at least 500 arrows from this one before posting and I put a nice thick finish on it. If I had only shot a few arrows from it and put a coat of oil on it I would have posted it days ago. ;D
Pearl Drums, The tempering is great. If I didn't temper it I would have wanted it to be at least 2.5" wide. Even at 2" I'm surprised it's retained this much reflex.
Buckeye Guy, I think we could call lots of woods kings. Go Green! Merry Christmas to you too.
rps3, If I feel like my hickory is too wet I have a large box with a space heater that I will put it in for a few days.
-
impressive bow, congrats!
how is the physical weight of the bow and how wide is it at midlimb?
regards,
gian-luca
-
Cool, what is the thickness of your bow from the fades to the nocks?
-
I really like it a lot. The contrast on the overlays it great.
Grady
-
Thanks guys. Mid limb is just over 1 5/8" wide and the thickness tapers from 9/16", 1" out from the fade, to 5/16" at the knocks.
-
Very impressive. Great bend for a stiff handle shorty and amazing retention of reflex. Very well done and a serious setting of the bar for those taking the ambush challenge.
-
Nice unit ryoon~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :)
-
I love laminated tips like that! Looks very sharp man! Good job
-
Looks like every bot of that is working. Great tiller.
-
Cool bow. Ugly hat.
Nice work than.
-
great job Ryoon! I have never really givin Hickory a chance, with the exception of backing strips. But that beauty sure makes me wanna try :)
-
Did a great job on that bow Ryan
-
Thanks guys! I really appreciate the comments and I hope it inspires some of you to see if you can beat the challenge.
Dag, The bit of bloodwood I had wasn't as thick as I wanted my overlays to be so I decided to add the hickory on top. Very easy to do if you have a belt sander to flatten the pieces.
-
Again, real nice job on that piece of hick :) I think you've inspired me to try my hand at the challenge. I have a mildly snakey short stave of "kingwood" (aka Osage) that just might fit the bill nicely :)
-
Very nice. That's the kind of bend i like to see. I would hunt with that!!
-
That's a sweet bit o' hickory that! You got it working overtime and your tiller is real nice. Nice work Ryan! Josh
-
Those overlays are cool, good work ryoon!
-
that ones gonna be hard to beat!
-
Sparty On!
-
No doubt that bow would make a fine hunter. Smooth tiller, you really get the most out of your bow wood.
-
Now that is a perfect tiller! Well done Ryoon. Excellent canidate for the ambush challenge. ;)
-
Thanks guys! I really appreciate the comments. :)
gianluca100, I forgot to answer in my previous reply so hopefully you see this but the bow is 18oz in mass.
-
Nice work,beautiful Hickory stick. :)
Pappy
-
Hard to top that. Great profiles, braced and drawn. Sweet.
-
Gotta love that hickory.I do over here too.Super beautiful job on a hunt about anything anywhere you want bow.That should be a tough customer to beat at your contest.
-
Here s my constructive criticism in meeting all the requirements....
. "It must be capable of staying braced for hours on end, day after hard hunting day, and not lose perceptible cast. The arrow you shoot in the early morning should strike the same mark in the late afternoon at a hunting distance"
Id be concerned with the hickory losing cast after being strung all day multiple days in a row in a more humid climate in a pack hunting situation. I guarantee you that bow wood lose some more cast after that scenario and your unstrung profile wood go to just straight at the very best.
And my number two concern wood be is it a smooth pulling bow out to 28"? Your string angle suggests you are hitting a wall at 28",and a bow that had even flipped tips,bent thru the hsndle,or a R/D design wood be smoother and more forgiving on release than a just reflexed straight side profile with a stiff handle.
Other than that it is a good candidate for an ambush type hunting bow,and its well made for its wood type and design.
-
That depends on the quality of experienced judges out there......LOL.There's always room for improvement.......LOL.Leave it strung for 3 hours if you hav'nt yet,because 100 arrows in an hour easily done.Then take a look.Heat treating does slow absorbtion of moisture to a degree.
-
GO GREEN!
Oh, and nice bow...
-
Woo, only just looked at this.
Wow that is one pretty bow, love those pyramid(ish) bows.
Bet she's quick too.
Del
(No quite so sure about the hat >:D as I expect you've got real hair unlike some of us old 'uns)
-
I hear ya.Diddo on burning the hat.......LOL.
-
Every now and then I see a tillering job that reminds me of the guy who was bar none at spot on tillering, the late DCM(David Mims). You nailed it on that bow, just like one of David's bows.
-
That's a high compliment Eric! Mims definitely had the touch.
Gabe
-
You are a bowmaking machine! Beautiful bow.
-
Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. But the hat is staying! ;D
blackhawk, Surprisingly enough the bow pulls less than 3# of draw weight in the last few inches. Also, even after a 200 arrow session over several hours it still had reflex after unbracing not to mention how quickly it goes back to over 2". With as thick a finish as I put on this one I doubt that humidity would have a dramatic effect on this bow. With so much reflex, even if it were to end up straight or with a little string follow the bow would probably still be around 50# draw seeing that the 55# is after shooting 100 arrows over the course of almost two hours. In a hunting scenario with so many less pulls/shots, I'm sure it would retain good strength. If we can find time to meet up I'll try to bring it along.
Eric Krewson, I greatly appreciate the comparison. David made some amazing bows.
-
Im sure u realize I'm being "nitpicky"...n they are only small personal concerns in the grand scheme of things,and possible small improvements that could make it a wee tad better IMHO. If the ambush bows were to be judged as to who's is best it would need a panel of experienced bowyer hunters actually being able to see and shoot the bows in person. We know pictures don't tell the whole story to a bow. Hope we can meet up..if ya need a ride ill pick ya up..no problemo...jus lemme know. ;)
-
I think that your bow would stand up to the test just fine. Considering that most primitive people made their bows from white woods and lived off them and took them to war I think white woods have proven their potential over time. Even though some woods may do a little better and white woods may take some set or lose some cast I am sure that it at the end of the day would still be deadly.
-
blackhawk, I completely understand. When I saw the pics I was surprised that it wasn't stacking at the end of the draw. Any farther and I'm sure it would. And moisture is always a huge factor. I usually don't worry about having too much protection but for this one I made sure to put on a nice thick finish. I'll try and get to you soon about my plans in PA. I don't have to worry about work so we may stay longer.
paulsemp, Very true but I think the real challenge is to see if you can make a bow that is consistently excellent through time, conditions, and use.
-
Dude Hickory ROCKS brother, and you just proved why. Fantastic BOW!!!!
-
Another perfectly tillered bow. :)
I can't find the other thread....but do you fancy taking up my challenge on making a recurve? 180fps,stiff handled,sharp recurves,unbacked etc.... ;)
-
The bow looks great. I really love those overlays
-
Thanks guys!
mikekeswick, I do have a deflex recurve in the works so we'll see when I get to it. I still have a few great staves left. We'll see if there's another recurve in there too. ;)
-
this bow seem's to be absolute perfect to me
-
Very nice work !!!
Looks like you toasted the heck out oft hat one... sure held bunch of reflex for a 58"er !!!
Tiller looks spot on ;)
-
Another fine looking bow Ryan..!
Yep, nothing like a good piece of hickory. :D
-
All I can say is wow!! Nice one!
-
Thanks guys! I really appreciate it!
Paul, except maybe a good piece of osage! ;)