Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Blacktail on December 05, 2012, 01:46:40 am
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has any made home made sleeves...if so how did you make them and the specs about the tubing or pipe...john
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John, I have never made sleeves myself. Actually, I was just trying to look Richard Drykhoff up today so I could get a set from him to take a look at it. Does anybody know how to reach Richard? John, if I get his contact info, I will pass it on. He would be the one to ask how to make sleeves. I am sure someone else here will be able to add something more useful.
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There's a video on youtube on how to do it. Two pipes, one 6" long and another one 3" short. Smaller one must fit snugly into the longer one. Put them together and put it in a table vise and flatten them enough so the don't spin.
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this was posted just the other dayhttp://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,35934.15.html
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Depending on how up-town you want your bow to be. Maybe 10 years ago there was an article in Primitive Archer magazine how to make a DIY take-down. Basically take a 4" section of 1" wide metal conduit pipe ( flatten a little in a vice if you desire an oval handle). Then shape the last 2" of each limb to fit into the pipe handle.
I've made several bows this way--ash ELBs, osage flatbows, etc. They work fine. I'll see if I can bring up an an old post that has some pics.
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Hopefully these will post.
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Mike Westvang(of Dryad Bows) and Rusty Crane wrote an article for PA years ago about using rigid metal electrical conduit for a take down sleeve. I cut a few sleeves out but never used them. If you want one or two of them I'll send them to you.
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Madcrow has a build along on here.
Rob
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I have plans to make some at work when I get the chance.......one day. Plan to use Stainless steel and Aluminum Bronze. With that combo I will not have to worry about possible rust from a steel sleeve. The good thing is if I make them and they work out good I will be able to make more.
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Wood swelling is not a problem HRATHGAR?
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wow,there is some good ideas on here..i will be looking in to them more..i tried to look up the you tube video and didnt find it...so,i am going to the hardware store and see what they got...SO,what would be a good glue for this..thanks so much..john
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How about a piece of copper pipe? I'm sure a a big pricey, but may look unique.
Cipriano
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"Wood swelling is not a problem HRATHGAR?"
I've never had any problem with wood swelling. Although a person can leave this a 3 part takedown I found it has been easier to have one of the limbs glued into the handle permanently. This serves two purposes: first you don't need to take the time to decide which limb fits best in which end (this can be a problem if you choose to squeeze the handle into an oval shape) secondly, and more importantly, if the limb isn't real snug in the handle it can turn a little after several shots.
With my first takedown sleeve I used a small shim or two to tighten up the insert --as suggested in the original article--I've discovered that wrapping a small piece of masking tape around the inserted end will also ensure a tight fit.
After a bow of two it gets much easier. The biggest challenge is making sure the tips will be aligned and that the limbs form a straight horizontal plane.
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The first 2 take downs I used sleaves off the legs of a old WW11 MECHINAL (MASH) type tents. The legs go together about half way up. There a 1 1/8" holes and have a nice fit and even had a lock to hold the two parts together. Not needed it was a deep sleave 1 1/2"s. Only one I've ever seen got it off a old dump I could only find 3 legs that had the sleaves on them. The rest were missing. They look and work as good as the ones 3 river has.
The last one I made from stainess steel tubeing. I cut and tigged a peice on each side makeing the sleave oblong. I also made a stainess hindge before. But really don't care for the hindges.
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Just I would trow this out there. I have looked at various take down systems. I came up with this idea today. I think it will work using 2 screws instead of one with a metal dowel like they use on the 3 piece take down bows. Tell me what you think..?
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Just I would trow this out there. I have looked at various take down systems. I came up with this idea today. I think it will work using 2 screws instead of one with a metal dowel like they use on the 3 piece take down bows. Tell me what you think..?
Well, I think one of the most important things about a take-down should be that it can be taken down quickly or set up quickly, without tools.
I do realize that it can also be important to be able to make a take-down with the means at one's disposal.
Jim Davis
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Make a sleeve out of fiberglass cloth and epoxy. It's super easy, cheap and works great. The link is to a build along.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,8511.0.html (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,8511.0.html)
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Just I would trow this out there. I have looked at various take down systems. I came up with this idea today. I think it will work using 2 screws instead of one with a metal dowel like they use on the 3 piece take down bows. Tell me what you think..?
Well, I think one of the most important things about a take-down should be that it can be taken down quickly or set up quickly, without tools.
I do realize that it can also be important to be able to make a take-down with the means at one's disposal.
Jim Davis
Yes the speed factor is something, but then again 2 screws to remove is the same as a 3 piece take down. And those are generally using Hex bolts. On the other hand we are talking about 2 piece designs. If ya'll have a better idea than that and hold up to the punishment of shooting arrows all day let me know..... ;)
I will try my Idea as shown in the photo soon,hopefully very soon...
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bow101 you dont need the bolts to hold the bow together like you do on a 3 pc bow, once you string it it stays together, but go ahead and try it and see how she works, might work out great, bub
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bubby,
I realize on the sleeve system it fits just so, snug I hope. Just heard stuff about hard to pull apart and some play in this system. My idea would hopefully eliminate the sloppiness, other note I may try 1 bolt with 2 alignment pins instead.