Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lars Groteballen on December 04, 2012, 05:12:31 pm
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Had the top of this tree snap off so I cut the bottom down and then cut it into logs, then split one. No idea what it is. First two guesses, white oak or pin oak.
I'm in Ohio, if that helps.
Thanks in advance.
*Of course I had to crop and could only include one pic (until I figure it out. So think of it as a challenge.)
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could you post a picture of the leaves?
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I guess I could've looked at the leaves. I got so excited about how it split, I didn't think to check for leaves. Then I had to update my CRM certification in order to post the picture.
So, if it is one of the oaks, and it was standing with the top snapped off, is it worth hogging wood off for a bow?
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I am no tree expert, but it looks like Cherry.
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Mulberry
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looks like Black Cherry to me. Ring porus, darkish heartwood, flakey, platey bark.
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I'm with Roy. Looks like Black Cherry to me.
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Well, I walked back to the woods and looked for leaves. You got me. No leaves left. I looked at a big pin oak which holds its leaves all years and the bark didn't match. I looked at all the cherry trees both sweet and wild and black, and I don't think the bark matches. But like Roy, I am not a tree expert. Looked at the Mulberry on the way out of the woods and no match on the bark either.
Have I discovered a new species. That would be cool.
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OK. Black Cherry.
Question stands: Worth a try?
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Love Black Cherry! Different kinda cat though.
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Well, it's way straighter than the black locust I just exploded. And If I run into trouble I just whittle the other staves down to candleholders or maybe a fancy pipe.
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Sunburst locust.
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That is not black cherry and I know that much for sure. Where is the tree located? Deep in the woods,or around someones house,neighborhood,or rural area?
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Deep in the woods of North Central Ohio near the old driveway to my barn. Trunk was about 15" dia. at base.
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Locust?
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Possible black locust but it's so straight and non-gnarly that I never considered it. All the other black locust in my woods are all bent up.
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It could be black locust or it could be mulberry but its not black cherry. Ive cut and split lots of black cherry dor firewood and it looks nuthin like that.
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Its not black cherry. I'm looking at a known stave, as we speak.
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Looks like Mongolian Tulip to me.
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Is that the only tree in the area with that style of bark try to find another tree that looks like it maybe you will find some leaves Could it be water oak
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I live in Wa. state, and some of the black locust here is pipe straight. Locust is only a guess.
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I forgot about mongolian tulip Roy. That does look a lot like what you have, it makes great bows but is extremely rare. I think pearl drums made a few bows from it, maybe he'll chime in shortly.
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Yup okie and it is native to Ohio.
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if you can get a twig that would help with ID, that's the surest way in the winter, and I've got lots of friends taking Dendrology right now.
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Twig it is.
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The bark is pretty distinct on Black Locust. I don't believe that it's BL...
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Both bark and wood color on that is just like our black locust. And ours will grow straight for a 20 foot section. :)
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Long thorns on the twig and trunk=Honey locust. Short thorns like a rose = Black locust. No thorns = Hybrid(sunburst)
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I doubt this is BL.
First, the Bark doesn't look like BL the way i am familiar with it.
Second, the sapwood usualy is spread over more anual rings then it is in this case.
Also The rings of BL mostly are wide in the center of the log and get thinner to the outside of the log.
But, as i live in Europe things could be way different here and i could be totally wrong ;) .
Without twigs or leaves this mystery is not gonna be solved i guess ::) .
By the way, looking at the pictures i could not stop my mind from thinking of Pine.....
Leo
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So, if it is one of the oaks (...)
It's not an oak, since it's lacking the ray flecks. Google "oak ray" to see what I mean. It's a really tell-tale sign in oak.
looks like Black Cherry to me. Ring porus, darkish heartwood, flakey, platey bark.
Cherry is diffuse porous...not ring porous like an oak species. From the first picture, I really can't see the pores, so I don't know if it's ring- or diffuse porous. Lars, can you tell from the end grain?
I'm pretty sure that second pic is a black locust piece. Is the first pic from the same tree? I don't think so?
If you happen to have a UV black light nearby, put a piece of heartwood under it. Does it appear fluorescent?
Lars, I have to ask...do you know what you Dutch last name "Groteballen" means in English? :D
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Lars, I have to ask...do you know what you Dutch last name "Groteballen" means in English? :D
As a Dutchman I was wondering about this name as well :laugh: .
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I know what my screen name means in Finnish.
My real first name is Allen, so it's in there, but I know........I know.
Here's the twig.
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Of course I meant Dutch. Auto correct and fat fingers. :'(
Bully for you for catching it.
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Of course in Finnish my name is Valtavia Palloja. Too feminine.
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Elm? - Slippery or American?
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Hallo Bigballs ;)
Well, it ist not BL, thats sure. Elm is good, the twig and the bark look like Elm but i am only familiar with the European species ( Ulmus glabra and Ulmus minor).
Regards Leo
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I've used that screen name for years, and you guys are the first to notice and mention.
Higher intellectual level here? Something else? ???
;D
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If it is elm, the wood when planed will have a feathery grain in between the anual growth ring grain. Very distinct. Red elm has hairy twigs while American has smooth.
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I've used that screen name for years, and you guys are the first to notice and mention.
Higher intellectual level here? Something else? ???
;D
If your dutch it is hard not to notice...