Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on December 03, 2012, 04:27:42 pm
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Well, this is a bow I begun 3 years ago. Its old Osage and the heaviest and darkest I ever had, it was very oily but had a lot of drying cracks (vertical). the bow several times piked and new tillered, because I was not satisfied with the result. So it became shorter and shorter ...
At least I decided to make something like a plains Indian bow. but with unusual cross section (wider)and unusual sinewing (only the bending parts to save mass). I had to correct this piece several times (twist and alignment). Tipsare steamed back (20 min). The back was carefully prepared for sinew job (acetone, roughing the surface).
This bow was a NIGHTMARE !
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/plais%20style%20lightning/_DSC0159.jpg)
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/plais%20style%20lightning/_DSC0157.jpg)
She has thrown off the sinew backing in one whole piece and that for two times!!!!! What a mess.
See the pics, I wonder if I could use this layers on another bow, perhaps glueing on in one whole piece??
Suggestions please.
After a long long time, I gave her a third try:
I prepared the back again, washed with acetone (3x, got every time a yellersoup); then used oven-cleaner-foam. Now I believe this was the deal!
O.k. here is then the third and hopefully last attempt, I started in January. Three layers of sinew, strengthened with sinew bindings (red) After drying I painted the bacing with a kind of lightning (from heaven or hell ??). The upper tip is decorated with a horse hair tassel, glued on a little plug. The handle is brain tanned buckskin (got it from my friend Kare - thanks!)
specs:
48" ntn
62#/24"
string: 8strands 425X + 4strands of Dacron at the ear / bowyers knot
bending handle, stiff levers 5" each
deer sinew
simson
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Awesome! ...and inspirational!
OneBow
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Looks like the end results was worth all the trouble tho..been there a few times myself ;)
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how do you do the reflex deflex like that?
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What a sweet little bow! Very authentic looking :) Nice job all around!
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Well done amigo looks like third times a charm
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Sweet! Perfect weight for that size. Sounds annoying to have sinew pop off like that >:(
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Thats a real sweet looking bow,persistence paid off.
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Very nice simson, love the way you dressed this bow up (decorations).
Greg
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Sweet looking bow you did a great job.
Rob
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I've had those vertical drying checks develop in some of my finished osage bows. No problems, even on the heavy war bows I've made. I fill the checks with super thin CA glue. No failures so far.
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you did a great job on that one, sometimes the wood that fights you every step of the way becomes the greatest bow
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That bow is awesome! Glad you stuck with it.
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Very cool bow Simson! You've been putting out some real nice ones! Glad you stuck that one out.
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That is a sweet bending bow. Way to stick with that stick!
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Rebellious. Put it in the corner for awhile >:(
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Now that is very nice simson! Love the painting on the back and the horse hair looks awesome!
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Beautiful shorty,love the finish work and tiller looks great to boot. :) Had a few of them nightmares myself. :)
Pappy
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My kinda bow!! I'll be posting something similiar very soon.
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That is a looker. It does look very authentic. Also, I really like your arrow, the fletching, your point. Great work, really noteworthy.
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Thats a realy nice bow!
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Beautiful tough shorty that brought the best out of you.It would of me too definitely.Way to hang in there.
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how do you do the reflex deflex like that?
I use a jig, a form of wood with the curve cut in. And steam of course about 20-30 min for each bend, depends on thickness of the wood.I've had those vertical drying checks develop in some of my finished osage bows. No problems, even on the heavy war bows I've made. I fill the checks with super thin CA glue. No failures so far.
I've had those vertical drying checks develop in some of my finished osage bows. No problems, even on the heavy war bows I've made. I fill the checks with super thin CA glue. No failures so far.
Yeah, I did also in this case - thin super glue is really great stuff
That is a looker. It does look very authentic. Also, I really like your arrow, the fletching, your point. Great work, really noteworthy.
fogot to say: the point is slate stone, can easily split in a matching size (thickness), shape is made by knapping, sharpened by grinding; feathers are grey goose
Ohhh,and sinew popping off came at full draw (not at the first!) with big bang like a gun shot!!!
Has anyone used popped off sinew layers a second time??
Thank you all for your input
simson
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Most just reconstitute the sinew into glue but I'm sure you realize this.I've never done or heard of the whole thing reaplied to a bows' back as is.Usually start from scratch with a new sinew job.As is maybe a section at a time reapplied to bows' back with a wet cloth and tin foil wrapped around it,and then a heat gun put to it.After sizing your back of course.Even then I'd trust just redoing the sinew job better myself.Maybe I'm wrong in understanding what your asking.
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Beautiful craftsmanship. I hope it stays together for you. Thanks for sharing.
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Like it. A real vintage look. :-)
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Very cool! (as usual)
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Nice bow man. I really like the horse hair. How do you dye it? And where can I get horse hair without having a horse? Great work.
Bird
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Really authentic. Nice job on the 2 vane feathers too.
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thanks for sharing the cool story, and what a great little bow. very cool.
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Nice bow man. I really like the horse hair. How do you dye it? And where can I get horse hair without having a horse? Great work.
Bird
Bird, I'm living in Germany - so it makes no sense to tell you my source for horsehair. If you have no acess to horserider take a google search and I'm shure you will find.
Dye job is nothing special, in this case wood dye.
Simon
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Yea, that would be along way to go for horse hair but it would be a cool trip.
I'm just moved to the east coast of the US and am just trying to find my resources, and now that I think about it, there is a horse racing training track not to far from here. Now this might be a stupid question but does the hair come off when they brush it or am I supposed to ask somebody if they will give their high dollar horse a haircut for me. I'm not trying to be rude, just hoping to avoid looking like ass walking up to somebody.
I really like that look of the hair on top and when I saw that bright red on yours it gave me an idea for when I get to making my daughters their bows. Their pretty close in age so they both gotta have pretty much the same thing or one gets jealous. Different color hair on top and we can easily tell the difference and avoid conflict. And yea I'm gonna get them started early, they're 4 and 5 years old now.
Again that's a bad lookin bow. Love it.
Bird