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Title: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: vyadha on November 18, 2012, 02:48:46 am
Hi all
Ive been making bows for a few years now and have yet to try out Osage. Lots of ipe, black locust, ash and maple and some juniper. In the past year its been mostly boards as Ive gotten lazy. Lately Ive been daydreaming about osage. Please help facilitate my daydreaming by telling me what I'd be missing if I dont give osage a shot.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: DarkSoul on November 18, 2012, 06:49:50 am
I live in Europe. Not much osage around here. Yes, I could order some and that would be crazily expensive. I've got soooo many other woods (nearly) for free, that I would consider myself crazy if I spent the money on osage. I'm enjoying myself with a whole list of other wood species, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on something!
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: Badly Bent on November 18, 2012, 10:30:45 am
Just try some sage and you'll know what you've been missing, you won't regret using osage. Very forgiving and has everything you could want or ask for in a bow wood.  ;D ;D ;D
Greg
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: blackhawk on November 18, 2012, 11:50:26 am
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: bushboy on November 18, 2012, 12:53:58 pm
beautiful wood,to work with,holds up under over stressed designs and when finished the grain is striking as any exotic competetor!it's gold for a reason!
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: missilemaster on November 18, 2012, 12:56:18 pm
BOWYERS GOLD!
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Post by: Dvshunter on November 18, 2012, 04:18:31 pm
You won't like it.  It turns your clothes yellow.  >:D 

You won't like it. It turns your brain yellow.  >:D

Trust me, you won't like it.    >:D
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: vyadha on November 18, 2012, 06:48:03 pm
Thanks all
Dark Soul thats been my thinking so far, so much less expensive stuff around here (California) that i havent felt the need to try it........ Until now.

Ive been making lots of boo backed stuff, I love ipe. Maybe a boo backed osage and ipe tri lam?
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: seabass on November 18, 2012, 08:30:33 pm
try it and  you will like it.my best bows are osage.at least give it a try.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: soy on November 18, 2012, 10:16:55 pm
Its ok for a second string bow wood >:D
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: JonW on November 19, 2012, 08:53:51 am
I don't really know what California has to offer for bow wood but try some Black Locust and then you will almost know what Osage can do.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: PaulN/KS on November 19, 2012, 08:58:11 am
You won't like it.  It turns your clothes yellow.  >:D 

You won't like it. It turns your brain yellow.  >:D

Trust me, you won't like it.    >:D

Yep, that about sums it up... ;)
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: Pappy on November 19, 2012, 09:03:31 am
Lots of good bow wood out there but Osage is hard to beat,it can provide with some of the cleanest /straightest wood you will ever see or more often some of the most challenging wood you would ever want and everything in between.Tough and forgiving. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Parnell on November 19, 2012, 09:26:13 am
I love experimenting with different woods and I imagine it will be part of what I do with bowmaking for a long time to come.  But the truth is, Osage is the best bow wood I've used.  It's not as "fast" as Ipe and as light weight as others, but if you just want to find the most useful in all categories of work, Osage is the best, hands down.
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 19, 2012, 10:29:55 am
I like osage too. It only grows in a small part of the country though. Sometimes, it is nice using home grown wood. Jawge
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Post by: Tom Leemans on November 19, 2012, 10:31:13 am
Osage is magic wood. That is all you need to know. 8)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 19, 2012, 10:52:41 am
I believe it to be thee absolute best all around bow wood going. No other wood matches its compression and tension qualities. Some match one or the other, but none match up head to head. Its hard, dense wood that takes any and all abuse given to it. You can have a nasty tiller and it still wont break, you can make it too short and still wont break, you make almost any error in building an osage bow and it still wont break. You dont have to temper it, you dont yhave keep it 72" long to get a bow either. Its builder friendly and the BEST in my tiny book. I believe if it grew abundantly across the USA we wouldnt even use several other locally available woods, its absence alone created another category of bow wood.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: Dean Marlow on November 19, 2012, 12:23:03 pm
I call Osage the durability champion. Will last a lifetime if treated right. I have tried all different kinds of wood and so far it is my choice of  wood for bow making. The one most important thing to do if you get a stick of Osage is to make sure it is dry. Do not rush into bending wet wood. I am beginning to think the longer is has seasoned the better it is. Dean
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Post by: turtle on November 19, 2012, 12:36:14 pm
As a bow wood Osage is in a catagorie all by its self. If you ever get some you wont be sorry.
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Post by: SLIMBOB on November 19, 2012, 12:47:46 pm
....And it's magic.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: ionicmuffin on November 19, 2012, 12:57:33 pm
From what ive seen and heard it would be worth your time getting some osage. You would be happy with it i would imagine. and if not then osage isnt for you. Cant hurt to try it once.(maybe it can...)
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: jimmy on November 19, 2012, 02:31:50 pm
It's funny, growing up in south Kansas, I always disregarded Osage trees because everyone did.  It was just a pain in the a*#.  Good for hedge rows along fields and fire wood.  Since I got into making bows I realize that I'm surrounded by gold.  Osage is the king.  You don't have to have it to make a good bow, but it is the spring steel of bow woods.  There is a reason why a good osage bow was worth so much to local tribes back in the day.  Nothing has has changed I guess, for those who know what's what.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: okie64 on November 19, 2012, 03:23:47 pm
Its great stuff. You might be better off not to try it , that way you'll never know what you're missing. Once you do try it you may have a hard time going back to anything else.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: osage outlaw on November 19, 2012, 09:00:17 pm
It's funny, growing up in south Kansas, I always disregarded Osage trees because everyone did.  It was just a pain in the a*#.  Good for hedge rows along fields and fire wood.  Since I got into making bows I realize that I'm surrounded by gold.  Osage is the king.  You don't have to have it to make a good bow, but it is the spring steel of bow woods.  There is a reason why a good osage bow was worth so much to local tribes back in the day.  Nothing has has changed I guess, for those who know what's what.

Same here Jimmy.  Growing up we burnt mostly osage.  I hated the thorns.  I have a totally different view of it now. 
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: RyanY on November 19, 2012, 10:06:26 pm
Osage is beautiful, and a dream to work with but any bow wood will make a great bow if you do it right. In fact, osage, being so much denser than other woods, will more easily make a dog of a bow if not made well.
Title: Re: Osage..... Please tell me
Post by: Carson (CMB) on November 20, 2012, 12:47:05 pm
Most everything I could say in praise of osage has already been said here.  One thing that separates good osage from the best is the early to late wood ratio.  Select a stave that has the least amount of early wood, the light porous wood, compared to the dense and darker late wood.