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Title: Question about masking your scent
Post by: David_Daugherty on November 15, 2012, 10:58:51 pm
Ok, not sure if this is the correct place for this question but here it is.  Does anyone have a recipe they use to help mask their scent while hunting? Now that I'm hunting primitive I am watching deer for longer periods as they meander their way closer to my limited bow range  ;D.   I have tried all the scent free soaps and detergents on the market.  I spray myself with scent eliminators prior to hitting the woods.  Once in the woods I rub down with crushed pine needles or any local foliage with a strong scent.  All of this helps but inevitably during the deer season I hear that dreaded snort that drops my heart into the pit of my stomach!  Not to say that happens every time but I would say about once every two weeks or so.  Any tips to beat the nose would be great.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: Pat B on November 15, 2012, 11:50:19 pm
There is nothing you can do if a deer gets in your scent stream. Play the wind the best you can. That is about all you can do.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: Scaramouche on November 15, 2012, 11:52:15 pm
Smoke bath. Only thing that works, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: killir duck on November 16, 2012, 12:07:08 am
i boil sagebrush and spray that on me before each hunt it seems to help and it also repels gnats, but no matter how welll your cover scent or scent killer works you always have to play the wind, when hunting the wind is the boss
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: hedge on November 16, 2012, 01:21:22 am
I rub down with plain old baking soda. Use pine needles, various animal poop, shove leaves in my pockets whenever I get the chance.  Seems to work for me and it's cheaper than store-bought stuff.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: vyadha on November 18, 2012, 06:28:02 pm
Playing the wind is the most important, its so important that I dont mind repeating what has already been said.
I mix my own scent eliminator, 16oz hydrogen peroxide, 16oz water, 2-3 cups baking soda. Let that sit in a bucket for a few days, stirring it up a few times a day.
When it stops foaming add a few drops of colloidal silver and put it in a spray bottle.
It works pretty good, had a spike walk less than 10 yards from me yesterday. That said, the wind was in face and it was drizzling a bit so conditions were great.
That mixture works amazingly when kittens miss the litter box!
Wind wind wind!
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: mullet on November 18, 2012, 09:00:11 pm
Distilled turpentine and water, but most important hunt the wind.
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Post by: Frawg on November 18, 2012, 09:06:45 pm
I make my own scent killer and play the wind. You can not beat a whitetails nose if they have the wind in their favor period.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: Stringman on November 19, 2012, 03:32:49 pm
I live in an area that has a house on almost every 20 acres. Most of these people burn there own trash so the deer are used to it. When I get ready to hit the woods I start a small fire and add bark or leaves and then let the smoke wash over and through my hunting clothes. My wife doesn't care for the smell but the deer act completely oblivious to my presence. I usually shower before getting smoked, but don't do anything else. I guess this method would depend heavily on your environment. 

Scott
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: bubby on November 19, 2012, 07:47:00 pm
we take sage, pine needles or whatever is local and put it in a bag with our huntin clothes, smoke from the fire and no food on the hunt
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: steve b. on November 21, 2012, 12:41:29 am
Vegetarian diet and/or chlorophyll (sp?) tablets starting a month before the hunt. 
Smoke bath, as mentioned
Toss some baking soda into the armpits and underwear
Bag the clothes as mentioned and hang them away from camp
And of course, the wind.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: agd68 on November 21, 2012, 09:02:22 am
I used to be very active working with our Natural Resources teaching the Bow hunters course, one of our instructors was also the Provincial Deer biologist. He did a very informative presentation on white tail and that was one topic he addressed. Here is what he said. How do you defeat a white tails nose ? YOU CANT. Science jabber dummified, they have the ability to sift and sort a whole bagful of scents and identify individual ones. Best tactics to use he advised was 1. use the wind to your advantage 2. get off the ground into a stand. Try to minimize your odors as best you can and use cover scents and bait or attractant lures, this will help but not defeat that super sniffer. One trick we use on bears is to hang a sweaty T shirt at the bait sight. after a while they get use to the smell and seem to ignore it. That way any new scent you lay down on your way in or out is not alarming.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 23, 2012, 09:03:53 am
The best thing I ever did regarding stink control was to comepletely change out of my hunting clothes on the tail gate and put them in plastic containers, every single hunt no matter what weather I was standing in. I rarely get whiffed anymore, most of that is using the wind and the rest is from a lack of residual odor off my clothes and boots being all but gone. I spray myself every two hunts as well. My boots get sprayed every hunt.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: David_Daugherty on November 23, 2012, 09:52:53 pm
Thanks for all the replies.  This has been a very interesting topic.  Again 2 days ago I was playing the wind as usual and the deer chose the one path that took him/her down wind from me.  It was too thick of cover to see the deer but I could clearly hear them walking through the dry leaves.  Once down wind from me they stopped and I never heard anther step or sound from them.  But they didn't blow me.  I found that curious, knowing they winded me but didn't blow.  I guess they didn't care enough about their buddies to warn them, lol.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: David_Daugherty on December 22, 2012, 10:19:25 pm
Here's an update on what I have done since this post.  I have combined pine needles, fat kinlin, bay leaves, cedar, and baking soda.  Boiled this for about 20 minutes.  Let cool with lid on then strain. I put the cover scent into a spray bottle and apply it befor I enter the woods.  Also take a little spray bottle to apply small amounts about every hour I'm on the stand. So far I have had deer walk by me, under me and all around me.  Nothing has smelled me as of yet.  Today I had a 6 point and 8 point come withing 5 feet of me (from down wind at that).  I shot the 8.  I also bathe with non scent soap prior to hitting the woods as well.  But so far this new ritual seems to be paying off :)
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: hedgeapple on December 23, 2012, 12:46:14 am
What is "fat kinlin" ?
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: iowabow on December 23, 2012, 12:46:38 pm
If you hunt the wind right you want them to smell you.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: iowabow on December 23, 2012, 01:02:17 pm
Use everything to your advantage the wind will change direction in a valley so if you hunt on high ground and let the wind play a role then you can drive deer to ward you. Go to where you want to hunt next year note wind direction on the ridge and in the valley. Set your stand to not only take advantage of one trail but two. You will find deer so confussed that they will ping pong multi times not knowing where to go.
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 24, 2012, 11:15:25 am
I have been able to get with in ten feet of many a deer without any scent blockers or masking !
I think in most parts of the country they are a waist of time and money !
Wise old deer blow for lots of other reasons than just to say I smell something wrong ! I have even seen them blow in hard hunted areas just to see if they can get something to move so they can get a better look !
Don't drive yourself crazy trying to do the impossible !
Take each day as it comes and enjoy it !
The bottom line is generally spend more time with them deer and they will learn you better  ,then they will decide if you can be close or far !
Then you can decide if you want to hunt them or sit and wait on one to stumble by in hopes of a shot at him ! There is a big difference !
Enjoy life!
Have fun !!
Guy




























 
Title: Re: Question about masking your scent
Post by: David_Daugherty on December 25, 2012, 11:39:51 am
Hedgeapple-  Fat kindling is pine that has aged while lying in the soil.  Around the southeast we have a lot of lime in our soil so the pine doesn't rot.  After years of aging it is full of turpentine and is used to start fire.  For my purposes I use it for the strong pine smell and the oil to help the scent cover to bond with what I spray it on.