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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 07:27:54 am

Title: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 07:27:54 am
I have been deer hunting with my 72 inch overbuilt hickory bamboo backed longbow this season.   Not only is it a little slow and light on draw weight.....but it is too loud as well.  I have had too many jump the string this year due to the string hitting my arm.

I have tried every trick without altering the bow.  I have decided to pike the bow to gain some weight either way.   
The main question is can i "violate" the grain by when piking...removing more from the le:ft to facilitate the new nocks being more to the right....tracking the string center in the handle instead of slightly Left as it does now.   I would heat bend but i dont think the boo and urac will withstand it

In a tshirt the bow is silent.  But even the addition of an armgaurd or longsleeve it gets loud as the string strikes my forearm.

What say the braintrust?   Alter nocks....alter handle?
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: lesken2011 on October 27, 2012, 08:14:03 am
I wouldn't think that re-laying out the bow would hurt. In other words, you would be basically redrawing your outside lines with a shorter overall bow and with the center line through the handle. As far as the string slap goes, you might try a slightly higher brace height. You are going to have to re-tune your arrows anyway due to the increased weight. Just my opinion based on limited experience.
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 08:24:38 am
Thanks for weighing in l.     I have raised the brace.   It doesnt help though because it is striking my forearm and not my wrist.    Its not overtravel its just setting left too far (right handed)
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: okie64 on October 27, 2012, 08:32:54 am
It wont hurt the bow to narrow the tips more on one side than the other, I do that on just about all of my bows to get the string tracking closer to center. Dont use heat on a backed bow as it will cause problems at the glueline.
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: lesken2011 on October 27, 2012, 08:35:47 am
In archery in college I had a much more upright stance and locked my elbow. Over the years I have developed a more stooped over style with my elbow bent somewhat. I think this has helped with string slap especially when you are wearing heavy clothing in cold weather. You might consider bending your bow arm slightly. It is not too hard to get used to.
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: H Rhodes on October 27, 2012, 09:31:12 am
I shoot like that too Kenny.  It seems to work better in hunting clothes and it's nice to not fool with having to wear an armguard.
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 09:38:47 am
Thanks ok.   Yeah guys ive tried.  I shoot hunched to begin with.   I only draw 25-26 inches i try to stay bent so much.  Still not enough .   So ill pike.....cheat to
Right side.   Im really hoping not to bust the bow but it was only a second attempt bow.  If it breaks oh well i have others.    Im also considering building left of grip to shift my arm out of way a little while remaining closer to centershot
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: Del the cat on October 27, 2012, 10:16:34 am
A small adjustment of the string line won't cause problems, just don't go mad 1/8 -1/4" max at one end will probably be plenty. Too much and it will make the bow turn a tad in the hand.
I agree with the others, a slightly hunched 'tree hugging' stance works well. The bolt upright target archery stance is fine if you have some modern f'glass cr4p with bells and whistles and gps guided laser sights.
Del
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 01:22:17 pm
Eloquently stated!    I call them space bows :D
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: adb on October 27, 2012, 01:40:27 pm
Careful with nock adjust that you don't get prop twist.
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: SLIMBOB on October 27, 2012, 01:48:40 pm
Thank you for your service Sir!
Title: Re: piking and shifting string nock questions
Post by: armymedic.2 on October 27, 2012, 07:28:17 pm
Adb i was wondering that myself.  I will go easy......the bow has some already so i may end up leaving alone and just making faster after careful analysis once my 40 hour weekend is over

Slim.   It was my honor.  Thanks for the thanks.