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Information and Resources => Trading Post => Topic started by: toomanyknots on October 25, 2012, 08:59:36 pm

Title: Osage staves, osage billets, Mulberry staves, + a silver maple stave 4 trade
Post by: toomanyknots on October 25, 2012, 08:59:36 pm
ALL STAVES ARE NOW TRADED, thanks!

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Time to do some serious cleaning out of my stave room...,  >:D. I have did my best to get every detail of each stave down, but if anyone is curious about a certain stave, please let me know and I will send you some more pictures or dimensions if you want. To keep this thread from loading for 3 hours when you open it up from all the pictures, I have just made photobucket albums of each individual stave that you can click to see a picture or pictures of each stave. The two honey suckle staves are Amur Honey Suckle, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonicera_maackii). If anyone is interested, please send me a private message, thanks!

Hackberry staves:

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(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/Snapshot110-25-20124-49PM.png)

Some of these staves I have already layed out, and was going to make a bow, but never got the time, or just never got around to it, etc. It is all just pencil, and can easily but erased or sanded off:

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/Snapshot110-25-20124-51PM.png)

Also, some of these staves are pretty hefty, if you want me to cut one down a bit to save on shipping, just let me know,  ;D.

Stave 1  SPOKEN FOR

Length: 80 7/8"
Width at top Limb: 3 1/2"
Width at bottom Limb: 4"
1" Reflex

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/one?postlogin=true

Stave 2 SPOKEN FOR

Length: 80 1/8"
Width at top Limb: 3"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 7/8"
1/4" Reflex

Notes: This stave is perfectly clean for about 70", but had a tiny bit of wood rip up on the back for the last 10" or so, which I took some pictures of. There is really nothing stopping you from making pretty much any kinda bow you want from it, but I still thought I would document it.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/two?postlogin=true

Stave 3  SPOKEN FOR


Length:63 3/16"
Width at top Limb: 3 1/2"
Width at bottom Limb: 5"
1" Reflex

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/three?postlogin=true

Stave 4  SPOKEN FOR


Length: 61 7/16"
Width at top Limb: 4"
Width at bottom Limb: 4 1/4"
1/2" Reflex


Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/four?postlogin=true

Stave 5 SPOKEN FOR


Length: 61 3/8"
Width at top Limb: 2 3/8"
Width at bottom Limb: 4"
1/2" Reflex

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/five?postlogin=true

Stave 6  SPOKEN FOR


Length: 75 3/16"
Width at top Limb: 3 1/8"
Width at bottom Limb: 4 1/2"
2" Reflex


Notes: This stave has a "nipple", lol, which I have taken a picture of.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/six?postlogin=true

Stave 7  SPOKEN FOR


Length: 65"
Width at top Limb: 2 1/4"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 1/4"
1" Deflex on top limb, 5/" Deflex on bottom limb. So about 1 5/8" Deflex total.

Notes: This stave is deflexed a bit. I was planning on making a reflex defex out of it, but never got around to it...

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/seven?postlogin=true

Stave 8  SPOKEN FOR


Length: 75 5/16"
Width at top Limb: 3"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 1/2"
2 5/8" Reflex

Notes: This stave I nicked a bit (just a tiny bit) with the draw knife when removing the sapwood. Nothing that calls for any ring chasing or backing, but I have since sanded the nicks out for the most part, which is why there is a big sanded section of it.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Hackberry%20Staves/eight?postlogin=true

Osage Staves:

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Staves/Snapshot110-25-20124-55PM.png)

The first two of these staves I was planning on making sapwood backed bows, so I removed more belly wood than I would regularly on an osage stave. There is still enough to chase a ring, but the handle will not be too deep. The second two staves are narrow and heavily crowned, and will only make d section longbows, or very narrow bows.

Stave 1    OSAGE STAVE 1 IS SPOKEN FOR

Length: 751/2"
Width at top Limb: 2 7/8"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 1/4"
Depth: 1 1/2"
5/8" Reflex

Notes: This stave had a bit of side checking on the upper limb, so I removed the wood that was checked on the side. This caused two narrow spots, but nothing under 2". I took some pictures for to show what I'm talking about...

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Staves/stave1?postlogin=true

Stave 2

Length: 62 3/8"
Width at top Limb: 2 3/4"
Width at bottom Limb: 3"
Depth: 1 5/8"
1" Deflex on bottom limb

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Staves/stave2?postlogin=true

Stave 3   OSAGE STAVE 3 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length: 70 3/8"
Width at top Limb: 3"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 1/4"
Depth: 2 3/8"
1" Reflex

Notes: This stave is very crowned and narrow, and will only make a d - section longbow or a very narrow bow.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Staves/stave3?postlogin=true

Stave 4

Length: 70 5/16"
Width at top Limb: 3 1/4"
Width at bottom Limb: 3 3/4"
Depth: 2 1/4"
5/8" Reflex

Notes: This stave is also very crowned and narrow, and will only make a d - section longbow, or narrow bow as well. This bow also has some checks on the sides of the bottom limb, which I highlighted in marker and took pictures of so show them better. This stave would be great for a longbow, but it will not make any other bow.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Staves/stave4?postlogin=true

Osage Billets:          - ALL OSAGE BILLETS ARE NOW SPOKEN FOR

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/PICT0042001_00011.jpg)

(Please note, every billet ended up being about 1 1/2" wide at the narrowest point, so I will add only the length dimension)

Billet 1     

Length - 41 3/8"

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/one

Billet 2   

Length - 39 3/16"

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/two

Billet 3       - BILLET 3 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length - 34 3/4"

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/three

Billet 4     

Length - 35"

Notes: This one has a knot on one end, as well as a check on the side, which I have taken pictures of.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/four

Billet 5   - BILLET 5 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length - 33 1/8"

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Osage%20Billets/five

Mulberry Staves:

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Mulberry%20Staves/Snapshot110-25-20125-00PM.png)

Stave 1

Length: 75"
Width at top Limb: 3"
Width at bottom Limb: 4 3/4" 
3 1/4" Reflex

Notes: This is a cool stave. When I first cut it the sapwood was so thin and dark I couldn't tell if it even had sapwood or not. I was stoked, I thought I had found the legendary sapwood-less mulberry! Later after it dried out I could tell it had a very thin sapwood, less than 1/4". I believe it must of been some kind of decease or something that made it grow so thin and dark like that. As well, it is very dense for mulberry, which is usually light, and the rings are very thin.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Mulberry%20Staves/stave1?postlogin=true

Stave 2           -  MULBERRY STAVE 2 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length: 82 1/2"
Width at top Limb: 4 3/8"
Width at bottom Limb: 4 1/4"
2" Reflex

Notes: This stave is absolutely huge. Even the rings are huge. ( >:D)  I will gladly cut down to size for anyone, :).

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Mulberry%20Staves/stave2?postlogin=true

Stave 3

Length: 58 7/8"
Width at top Limb: 3 3/4"
Width at bottom Limb: 4 3/4"
1 3/8" Reflex

Notes: This stave is perfect for a west coast flatbow. It is not very deep, but it is quite wide.

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Mulberry%20Staves/stave3?postlogin=true

Honey Suckle Staves (and one Silver Maple stave)

The honey suckle staves are amur honey suckle. I do not own a tool that can work this wood, it is incredibly tough, and I work osage with a dull wrap all the time. I wanted to try a longbow out of this stuff, but no matter how sharp my tools are, it just kicks their butt. So yall have been warned, ;D. The bellys have checking all the way down to the pith on both pieces, (which I have taken pictures of). I am not sure how deep that is, but I would guess that they both would still yield a deep d section longbow. And the shorter one would definitely give you a nice reflexed flatbow. The last stave is a silver maple stave.

(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Honey%20Suckle%20and%20Silver%20Maple/Snapshot110-25-20125-01PM.png)

Stave 1 (Honey Suckle)   HONEY SUCKLE 1 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length: 66 7/8"
Width at top Limb: 2 1/4"
Width at bottom Limb: 2 1/2"
2 5/8" Reflex
 
Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Honey%20Suckle%20and%20Silver%20Maple/stave1?postlogin=true

Stave 2 (Honey Suckle)        HONEY SUCKLE 2 IS NOW SPOKEN FOR

Length: 77"
Width at top Limb: 2"
Width at bottom Limb: 2 1/2"
1 5/8" Reflex

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Honey%20Suckle%20and%20Silver%20Maple/stave2?postlogin=true

Stave 3 (Silver Maple)

Length:72 1/4"
Width at top Limb: 2 3/8"
Width at bottom Limb: 3"
1" Reflex, with a slight deflex on the bottom limb

Picture/Pictures:

http://s1203.beta.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/library/4%20Black%20fletching%20english%20practice%20arrows/Staves%20for%20Sale/Honey%20Suckle%20and%20Silver%20Maple/stave3?postlogin=true






Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: cracker on October 25, 2012, 11:00:54 pm
Soo whtacha need for one of those honeysuckle staves.Ron
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on October 25, 2012, 11:26:15 pm
Soo whtacha need for one of those honeysuckle staves.Ron

Ron, I sent you a private message.
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on October 26, 2012, 02:24:29 pm
Alrighty, mulberry number 2 is now taken, thank you Legionaire!
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on October 26, 2012, 03:27:21 pm
Billet 3 and 5 are now spoken for, thanks!
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: sleek on October 27, 2012, 01:08:10 am
Real likely to take the rest from you. Specially the osage and mulberry. How much?
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on October 27, 2012, 10:17:48 am
Real likely to take the rest from you. Specially the osage and mulberry. How much?

Sleek, I already sent you a private message, did you get it?

EDIT: I sent ya another one in case you didn't get that last one.  :)
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on October 27, 2012, 11:33:01 am
All the osage billets are now spoken for, thanks!
Title: Re: Hackberry, Osage, Mulberry, Honey Suckle, and Silver maple staves for trade...
Post by: toomanyknots on November 01, 2012, 10:40:28 am
Due to some confusion, the remaining osage staves, the 3 osage billets, the 2 mulberry staves, and the silver maple stave are still up for grabs. To clarify, the staves available are:

Osage stave number 1
Osage stave number 2
Osage stave number 4
Osage Billet 1,2, and 4
Mulberry 1
Mulberry 3
And the silver maple stave

If anyone is interested, please send me a private message, thanks!
Title: Re: Osage staves, osage billets, Mulberry staves, + a silver maple stave 4 trade
Post by: toomanyknots on November 02, 2012, 12:33:59 pm
Osage stave number 1 is now spoken for, thanks!
Title: Re: Osage staves, osage billets, Mulberry staves, + a silver maple stave 4 trade
Post by: toomanyknots on November 03, 2012, 09:24:27 pm
All staves are now traded, thanks!