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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: blackhawk on October 01, 2012, 07:38:04 pm

Title: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: blackhawk on October 01, 2012, 07:38:04 pm
I traded with Cody(misslemaster) for this stave back on memorial day at Marshall. I ended up making a standard american flatbow out of it. Its 66.5"ntn,1 1/2" wide at the fades till midlimb,then tapers to 7/16" tips with ipe overlays,target mass was 20oz,actuall mass weight is 20oz  8),its low 50's@28". For a regular ole flatbow it really makes an arra thump a target pretty hard. I cant wait to get my hands on another piece of this stuff. It was a really good piece of wood and i was very happy with my end results. And thats saying something coming from an admittted osage snob.  >:D    anyways...ill quit boring you n get to the goods  ;)

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Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: missilemaster on October 01, 2012, 07:42:33 pm
Oh man Chris, that bow looks awsome!! well done my friend. I'll get more to you at the classic.

     Cody
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: ErictheViking on October 01, 2012, 08:37:15 pm
Sweet work around the character areas.
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Zion on October 01, 2012, 08:39:16 pm
Very sexy bow  8)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Knapper on October 01, 2012, 08:45:59 pm
Beautiful bow BH. I havent seen many with the sap wood left on . Looks great. If i"m seeing it correctly
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Badly Bent on October 01, 2012, 09:39:10 pm
Thats a slick bow Chris, love the look of that sapwood back. Doesn't look like it was a easy stave to work but you did a great job with it
Still have some splits of this at my shop and considering the praise that you and Cody give this wood I'll have to tear into it, maybe after
hunting season.
Greg
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: osage outlaw on October 01, 2012, 10:11:25 pm
Another great bow Chris.  You sure crank them out.
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: sharpend60 on October 01, 2012, 10:56:51 pm
I got get my hands on some of that.
I *think* I discovered some brichleaf buckthorn down the tracks from my home... Doesnt look nearly as sweet as that wood.

"Surrender the booty" huh.
I'd say mission accomplished.
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Sidewinder on October 01, 2012, 10:57:34 pm
Chris, you rock man. I like it alot. Great job. I like the funkiness on that one limb.   Danny
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: lesken2011 on October 01, 2012, 11:27:47 pm
Nice job, Blackhawk!! She's a looker, that's for sure. Love that zag in the limb, too!! ;)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: coaster500 on October 02, 2012, 12:13:44 am
Beautiful work Hawkman :)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: soy on October 02, 2012, 01:37:37 am
That is 1 odd looking duck...... I like it ;)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: dwardo on October 02, 2012, 06:33:29 am
Nice job on a tricky bit of wood.  8)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Pappy on October 02, 2012, 07:49:55 am
Nice job Chris,love them bow with some character. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 02, 2012, 08:40:53 am
That finished off sweet. Nice finish work pal!
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: blackhawk on October 02, 2012, 09:10:12 am
Thanks cody,and thanks for the stave/trade  :)

Thank yous to zion,knapper,eric,clint,danny,kenny,kip,soy,dwardo,pappy,n my pal ;)

Thanks greg,I think you will like this wood too if you temper your bows. But even before I tempered it,it took zero(no loss at all) set up till I long stringed it at 24",which is very osagelike in compression. I then gave her a heat treat,then cleaned her up n took a lil more weight off before bracing it for the first time,then brought it out to full draw in which it lost an inch+. I then gave it a nice light temper. Then sanded her down n removed some wood from my sides to meet my target mass n drop the draw weight back down. And that worked like a charm for this wood,and gave me excellent results in the end.

Thanks sharpend,have fun experimenting with what you found. It might be different from what this is?
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Will H on October 02, 2012, 09:12:25 am
Oh man that's nice! I like that buckthorn! Very cool!
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: H Rhodes on October 02, 2012, 09:56:49 am
Dang, that is a sweet looking bow!  I gotta get my hands on some buckthorn.  Looks like a good one - great craftsmanship, as usual.  :)
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Buckeye Guy on October 03, 2012, 11:10:39 pm
Good job Chris !!
I hope to get my hands on some of that stuff !
Don't let me come home from Marshall without it !!
Take care my friend !!
Guy
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: blackhawk on October 04, 2012, 09:33:14 am
Thanks will...thanks howard

Thanks Guy...and what wood you do with a stave if ya got one?...lol :laugh:
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: BowEd on October 04, 2012, 03:34:47 pm
Wow that's a charater laden straight stick blackhawk.Looks like a weiner.You better watch out though if you heat treat it the third time it might talk back to ya.If you say it compares close to osage it's got to be something.That cleaned up really nice.Very nice shooter there.
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: druid on October 04, 2012, 04:05:08 pm
Great character and finish. I think outer limbs could do more work, they are a bit stiff at ful draw?
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: Keenan on October 04, 2012, 06:57:29 pm
Love it, very sweet lines. Congratulations
Title: Re: European Buckthorn Flatbow
Post by: blackhawk on October 04, 2012, 08:46:12 pm
Thanks ed....nuttins close to osage,but this stave was about as close as you can get  ;)...usually. I just temper once before the bow takes any set and where you wood brace the bow for the first time. I'm not a fan of overcooking wood and doing it too many times either. The second time it was just real light till it started to change into that yellow colour,then moved my gun.

Thanks Druid...I think the prop twist,character,n a sublte reflex mid limb in the top limb might be messin with ya. That's why I showed the tiller from both ways. I did tiller it on purpose to be getting a lil more bend than usual in the inner limbs than I normally would. I know pics tell a lot,but sometimes it can be tough without seeing it bend in person. Especially a character. Only the last 5" of the tips are stiff.  ;)

Thanks keenan