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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: deerex on August 29, 2012, 02:50:54 pm
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I was directed to this site from another bowhunting site. My interest has become kindled in the area of traditional archery. I would like to share a few pictures of a long bow that was recently passed down to me from my father. he aquired it from a man who was a collector of weapons and traveled overseas and had many exotice weapons as I recall, I was young when I remeber seeing them but he had swords and shields and spears hanging on the walls of his modest home. I am hoping someone here can shed some light as to the age of this bow and it's material and possible origin. If not point me in a direction to have it's mysteries uncovered. In my limited knowledge it appears to be an english style longbow with horn tips (there is some old worm damage in the tips I feel has been there for some time) there is a cord wrapped grip with some type of leather wrapped outside of that. I can see no markings on the bow. It has been hanging in my fathers house for a little over 20 years. Pictures to follow, thanks Dan
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here are some pics.
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one more
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how long is it?
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Over 6' I can measure when I get home. what is the proper way to measure? tip to tip straight? or follow the contour? there should not be much differance I guess..
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did you post itin the english warbow section, they might have more info, Bub
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Total length is 73 1/4 +-
Thanks
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From the pics of old English longbows I have seen here and in Primitive Archer Magazine, they seemed to have often placed marks just below or above the grip on the belly, or inside, of the bow. From the pics, I couldn't see any. Might be a home made shooter, and not something from an archery maker/dealer. I think it's really cool, planning on copying that grip some time on a longbow.
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I'd venture to say it is from the 1940s from the looks of the handle wrap. The horn nocks are a bit amaturish looking as they are not well fitted. The wood could be lemon wood which was very common is those days. It probably doesn't have much draw weight just by looking at the shape and length.
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It could be earlier, late 20's maybe. I have 4 of them that were all made similer. Like Pat said, more than likely Lemonwood.
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I'd venture to say it is from the 1940s from the looks of the handle wrap. The horn nocks are a bit amaturish looking as they are not well fitted. The wood could be lemon wood which was very common is those days. It probably doesn't have much draw weight just by looking at the shape and length.
I have read also that lemon wood was common for target longbows like these back in the day. I can't tell exactly, but just out of curiosity, does the bow appear to have a laminated back? I was thinking it might be hickory backed or something, but the varnish aged and yellowed so much that it might of become hard to tell...
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Looks like it has taken quite a bit of set. Like Pat said, looks like lemonwood, and the horn nocks, if not the whole bow appears to be a home-made product--the corners/edges seem a little 'blockish' for and elb. Still and all a nice bow and nice cordage handle wrap.
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I agree that it looks English. It's at least European, but my guess would be from the United Kingdom. I also think it is probably lemonwood, given the age and design of the bow. Those horn nocks are very ugly looking, if you ask me. Indeed somewhat amaturish. I don't think the bow is worth a lot of money (if that matters at all), but it might have high sentimental value for you and you family. I wouldn't be surprised if you could still string it and shoot it, though. But you must be sure it's worth the risk. The bow looks in good condition other than just being old. Inspect it for any damage before you string it.
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When younger I had 3 bows that looked just like it. All 72"s. It's differently home made lemonwood. Lemenwoods famous for string follow with age. The cells break down some what. Your right the nocks ar'nt filed in to even and factory english long bows I've see ar'nt that blocky.
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There is definately no hickory or any laminate. There are light tool marks all over the bow. From the other forum I belong to the consensus is Lemonwood or degame and they seemed to think the 1930's. I can find no marks at all. The horn tips have some bore damage and as noticed are not perfect. everything else is very symmetrical and the D shape is distinctive. The gentlemen who collected this originally traveled to Europe and Africa that I know of, worked in the oil/gas industry. this will be a wall hanger for sure. wouldn't try and string it. Thanks for the opinions and insight.
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I wouldn't mind having that bow hanging on the wall at my place! Nice addition to your collection.
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Lemonwood is Digame! ;)
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I've got two That are still shooters. one from the early 30's and one from the 40's. Both have a lot of set. I'm heat bending three more old ones back straight and heat treating the bellies right now. They'll shoot again, proudly. :)
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Agree that it is an ELB-style carriage bow (lower poundage, maybe 40lb). Dr Charles Grayson brought one to MOJAM one year. I thnk his was osage orange. He was a fellow who travelled abroad and collected a good many bows as well. Degame is also a good guess for a wood that was used for bows. Water buffalo horn tips. Doesn't appear to have been use much with all its reflex.