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Title: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: johnston on August 05, 2012, 04:04:35 pm
If an animal control officer is called to an animal/vehicle collision and
the animal is not dead but beyond repair what is the method of
dispatching the animal?  Ain't good at sending links but if it works
this is what prompted the question.

Lane
http://www.zulily.com/p/cobalt-short-haul-diaper-backpack--20112-1332589.html
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: johnston on August 05, 2012, 04:06:28 pm
That did not work, maybe this will.
http://thetandd.com/news/dogs-gone-wild-animal-lovers-unleash-problems-with-strays/article_80b7dc3e-dea9-11e1-ae55-0019bb2963f4.html
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: TRACY on August 05, 2012, 06:58:05 pm
Not sure what they do where you're at, but many nuisance control guys are required to have a euthanasia chamber(lidded barrel with co2 hose) in the vehicle to dispatch certain species. With domestic pets etc, they probably just try to deliver to a local vet. Sounds like this area needs some immediate removals of feral dogs!

Tracy
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: osage outlaw on August 05, 2012, 07:14:20 pm
My father-in-law had a deer end up in his yard after being hit by a car late one evening.  A local policeman came and shot the deer with his handgun and then left.  My father-in-law can't even watch a fish being fileted so he went inside while the officer shot the deer.  When he went out the next morning the deer was still in his yard and still alive.  The officer didn't even check to make sure he had killed it. 
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: mullet on August 05, 2012, 07:47:04 pm
Usually don't have that problem around where I live. If you hit a deer, hog, or gator and it's fresh, it doesn't take long for someone to load and clean it.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: cracker on August 05, 2012, 10:42:49 pm
Bout the same around here Eddie plus the cops are almost all hunters and are more adept at ending suffering. Sometimes they even call me. Ron
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: johnston on August 06, 2012, 12:13:36 am
But what about dogs? And without a death chamber in the truck what do they use?

Flopping dog on the road...ball peen hammer, .22, knife, ice pick, what?

Lane
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: mullet on August 06, 2012, 09:06:11 am
9mm
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: seabass on August 06, 2012, 05:44:47 pm
herein ohio i have seen deer put down with thier sevice pistol.then if you want the deer they will write you a recipt so you can get it processed without a tag.my buddy hit the deer.we had a slug gun in the truck.my friend offered to let the officer use it.the policeman said that he had to use his own gun.it took two shots from his nine mil.probably would have been more humane with the slug gun,go figure.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: mullet on August 06, 2012, 05:55:26 pm
I put one down with a hammer with a game officer watching.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: johnston on August 06, 2012, 06:08:00 pm
A hammer was my first thought Eddie. I have seen many cows and hogs
cleanly dispatched by little old men in overalls.

Lane
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: osage outlaw on August 06, 2012, 09:50:49 pm
All this talk about finishing off deer reminded me of an incident with a former neighbor one fall.  My sister called me about a guy walking towards her house with a gun.  I grabbed a shotgun and ran out to investigate.  It turned out the guy was renting the house out the lane and asked if any of us had shot a deer next to the road while riding a quad.  I told him that it wasn't us.  He pointed to a small doe that was flopping around in a field next to the road.  We walked over and saw that she had been shot in the spine and her back legs were useless.  He said that he would finish it off and take the meat since he hadn't shot a deer yet this season.  I noticed he had a muzzleloader so I offered to do the deed with my shotgun so he wouldn't have to clean his gun.  He said that he wanted to do it.  The guy put the end of the barrel about 4" from the deers head.  It was at this point that I started backing up real fast.  Did I mention that the guy was wearing white sweat pants and white sweatshirt?  When he fired the shot the deers head nearly split in half.  Blood started squirting up in the air from it.  The guys white outfit was now covered in blood.  He started dry heaving and I couldn't help but start laughing.  I wished him luck with it and went back home.  The guy was supposedly a big time deer hunter. 
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: Brock on August 06, 2012, 10:24:10 pm
deer hit in front of my house last year...cops called as car was damaged and young teen female was shook up.  cops showed and asked if I wanted the deer...a big fat doe.  asked them to call DNR so I could get something in writing saying it was road kill and not taken out of season...but DNR was too busy to come out.  Cops asked if I would dispatch it so they would not have to shoot in the neighborhood and rile up the HOA...so cut her throat then popped neck to put out of misery.

dragged her into swamp behind house to feet nature.....as they are pretty strict about out of season kills here and was not trusting that a note from law enforcement would suffice if DNR came around. 
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 06, 2012, 11:18:10 pm
I have a neighbor across the alley with a garage full of feral cats, at least 6 adults and unknown numbers of kittens.  I've found several of the kittens in the alley half eaten by the other cats.  Yup, it's that bad.  The best I can get from the city officials is that they will come pick up any strays I can trap. 

One neighbor has been trying to trap these cats all summer with no results.  Apparently someone had tried earlier and had one success...but the other cats learned.  I can hardly blame the cats, but I sure do blame the homeowner. 

Heck, I can't even train my kestrel in the backyard because one of the cats was stalking us!  Putting some serious thought to one of those high speed air rifles with the suppressor muzzle. 
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: Stringman on August 07, 2012, 02:05:09 pm
JDub, can't you just use a bigger bird and... Go hunting?!!
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 07, 2012, 05:43:51 pm
Heck, I can't even train my kestrel in the backyard because one of the cats was stalking us!  Putting some serious thought to one of those high speed air rifles with the suppressor muzzle.

CB or B caps.....
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 07, 2012, 06:48:03 pm
The redtail is fat and lazy, and the great horned owl is missing a wing...but may make up for it in sheer orneryness!  You may have something there, Stringy!
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: crooketarrow on August 08, 2012, 12:33:27 pm
  Here's a good one, no matter how stupit this sounds all of it's completely.true Last fall right below my house a car with 4 girls hit a deer broke it's back. All 4 girls were setting around petting the doe crying I mean really crying hard. I had walked down and told them I only had a knife but would kill her. 2 Of them right a way got in my face and said you are not.
  The SP had been called to take her to the vets. I told them no way, he's come and just shoot here to put her out her pain. The one said no he's not she going to the vets.. A DNR CO pulls up ahead of the cop. Walks down to the doe with a rifle. The one girl actully tryed pushing him down they fought over the rifle. He had to draw his pistol.
  About then the cop pulls up. The one that did the pushing. Said I want this guy arested for comeing down here with that gun to shoot that deer. Well it only took him a second and the girl was in the back of the car. And he had the rest seting on the bank when the CO shot the doe. All 3 were up screaming crying to stop they wanted her taken to the vet.
  One of these girls even came down the bank running yelling to stop YOU MURDER and got in the cops face when he stop her. She also got to set on the back seat. AFTER THE COP HEARD MY STORY HE WANTED ME TO PRESS CHARGES ALSO FOR VIRABLEABUSE.
  By now they had drew small croud of stoped people and all I saw was people shaking their heads. The whole thing was totally unreall to me. He found some weed in the car, it must have been some realy good weed to make anyone act like they did. METH MAYBE I could still here the 2 crying as I walked Up the road. Probely all 4 I just could'nt here the 2 in the car.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 08, 2012, 10:49:36 pm
There isn't a single word in that tale that I doubt, buddy.  Walt Disney has indoctrinated the world with the idea that hunters are evil, death is the most serious enemy, and if we all wish on a star hard enough we can fly.  That's all well and good if you are trying to settle down a 5 yr old with monsters under the bed, but it's a poor operating system for when you are supposed to be grown up and have a functioning understanding of what real life IS.

Even as I type this I am waiting for a game officer from the Pine Ridge Reservation to deliver an injured hawk.  I'll bust a hump to save this bird if it is possible for that bird to return to the wild and live a normal life.  But there is a 90% chance that this bird is just destined to be one of the many that die. 

Some would scream "Amputate the wing, save the bird!"  But I say, "Save him for what?  Take away the unlimited sky?  The sheer joy of hanging on a thermal 2000 feet up above the Badlands?  The thrill of hitting a running rabbit, sinking your talons deep into your prey and feeding until you feel you will bust, because you know tomorrow you might not be so lucky?  And then to live in a cage, unable even to fly up to a perch a few feet off the ground?  I couldn't be THAT BLOODY CRUEL to an animal."

Catch me when I've had a few, maybe I'll tell you what I really think.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: dry ball on August 13, 2012, 07:20:19 pm
Back in the 60's I was a Animal Control for Orange Co. California and we were armed wirh .38 revolvers Thats how we dispatched in the field. Back at the shelter t5hey had a pressure tank that did the job. I perdonally prefered to use the bullet as that it was MORE HUMANE!. I finally graduated to the Sheriff's office.
Title: Re: How do they kill 'em?
Post by: Adam on August 13, 2012, 10:45:05 pm
I talked with a Sheriff deputy acquaintance of mine about this awhile ago.  They had Ruger Mark II .22 pistols with a suppressor.  He said it worked pretty well and they didn't get complaints of noise.